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P4blo
05-07-2005, 02:14 PM
im juss woundering whatchu guys think cuz ..i aready know in the east the heat going :) ...and for the west i honestly think its a toss up.

Funky
05-07-2005, 02:19 PM
Heat/Phoenix.

P4blo
05-07-2005, 02:24 PM
thats what i said ^^^ like in the begining of season

Funky
05-07-2005, 02:26 PM
or San antonio.. depends.

P4blo
05-07-2005, 02:32 PM
na i dont think they gonna do it...not saying they not good...but the suns play real good when all players heathly

ChieF
05-07-2005, 02:35 PM
Simple Heat/Phoenix
Pho will take in 6 games, the heat will win the 1st 2 games but the next 4 games are Pho.

The heat will be tired after 2games due to the pace of the Pho Team.

WesT)AcE
05-07-2005, 02:40 PM
..but i wanted Yao to win ;[

ChieF
05-07-2005, 02:44 PM
..but i wanted Yao to win ;[
yoa sucks, the giant has no passion for the game.

P4blo
05-07-2005, 02:44 PM
chief knows his shit about basketball...but lets c cuz i think the heat really can keep up...but what i think the heat gotta do is make phoenix play heat basketball...like not letting them play the way they usally do..and thats what the heat are real good at so...we will c :)

Funky
05-07-2005, 02:55 PM
Heat will take first game, then phoenix will take it just like that.

darkkefu
05-07-2005, 02:57 PM
heat/phoenix, go nash :)

Funky
05-07-2005, 02:59 PM
lol kefu. :)

DaRkReBeL
05-07-2005, 03:08 PM
miller will get his championship! or at least i want him to :(

Dr.Lag
05-07-2005, 03:09 PM
chief knows his shit about basketball...but lets c cuz i think the heat really can keep up...but what i think the heat gotta do is make phoenix play heat basketball...like not letting them play the way they usally do..and thats what the heat are real good at so...we will c :)Yeah, people thought the lakers could keep up last year wit' my team, but then look what happened.. Go PISTONS ~

Dr.Lag
05-07-2005, 03:10 PM
miller will get his championship! or at least i want him to :(He's a good Free throw shooter, that's ALL he is. He doesn't even act as a leader

DaRkReBeL
05-07-2005, 03:13 PM
He's a good Free throw shooter, that's ALL he is. He doesn't even act as a leaderlol? best clutch player ever

P4blo
05-07-2005, 03:25 PM
lol? best clutch player everpretty good clutch player but he cant keep up wit other guards and small fowards in the leauge anymore ..and there is like -1% chance of pacers going ..
but anywayz...THE HEAT BABY!!! thats whose gonna win! :)

-dazed-
05-07-2005, 03:28 PM
I Will Win In The Finals I Can Play 1 v 5 :D

DaRkReBeL
05-07-2005, 03:33 PM
pretty good clutch player but he cant keep up wit other guards and small fowards in the leauge anymore ..and there is like -1% chance of pacers going ..
but anywayz...THE HEAT BABY!!! thats whose gonna win! :)i no the -1 but dont remind me ! i can still hope for it and they better win that game 7 or im ognna be pist as hell

P4blo
05-07-2005, 03:40 PM
i no the -1 but dont remind me ! i can still hope for it and they better win that game 7 or im ognna be pist as hell
LMAO...its been a good series tho

-dazed-
05-07-2005, 03:52 PM
pablo u been a very good series ;)

Notorious
05-07-2005, 04:04 PM
yoa sucks, the giant has no passion for the game.


Yoa does not suck at all. damn people are retarded.

Notorious
05-07-2005, 04:05 PM
Simple Heat/Phoenix
Pho will take in 6 games, the heat will win the 1st 2 games but the next 4 games are Pho.

The heat will be tired after 2games due to the pace of the Pho Team.


Lmao, the heat will be 'tired" rofl fucking idiot.

Notorious
05-07-2005, 04:09 PM
Last year everyone doubted the Pistons majorly in the Finals mainly because of Shaq and Kobes dominance. Pistons prooved everyone wrong. The heat have Shaq and Wade. Detroit beat Shaq and Kobe so they can beat Shaq and Wade.

P4blo
05-07-2005, 04:14 PM
Last year everyone doubted the Pistons majorly in the Finals mainly because of Shaq and Kobes dominance. Pistons prooved everyone wrong. The heat have Shaq and Wade. Detroit beat Shaq and Kobe so they can beat Shaq and Wade.ok now u went to far ...lmao the heat is not all about shaq and wade like it was in La ...shaq and kobe ...they play "team ball" there defence can hold jus about any team...and pistions are a very good team ...but the heat will fuqin ass RAPE THEM ...PROVE ME WRONG !

gS_Macmanus
05-07-2005, 04:26 PM
I say, WHO CARES? The NBA is full of overpayed morons anyways.

COLLEGE IS WHERE IT'S AT.

God Emperor Uber
05-07-2005, 04:26 PM
I say Denver Broncos

go broncos

gS_Macmanus
05-07-2005, 04:27 PM
ok now u went to far ...lmao the heat is not all about shaq and wade like it was in La ...shaq and kobe ...they play "team ball" there defence can hold jus about any team...and pistions are a very good team ...but the heat will fuqin ass RAPE THEM ...PROVE ME WRONG !Shaq is fat and can barely run anymore... It is kinda funny

gS_Macmanus
05-07-2005, 04:27 PM
Lmao, the heat will be 'tired" rofl fucking idiot.It is true lol they do get tired... Shaq is sooooooo out of shape

chinky
05-07-2005, 04:36 PM
i will win,
gg

Opi
05-07-2005, 04:47 PM
pistons/rockets.

rockets win in 7. :D

Funky
05-07-2005, 05:03 PM
lol. funky/opium funky sweeps the series.

Dr.Lag
05-07-2005, 05:17 PM
ok now u went to far ...lmao the heat is not all about shaq and wade like it was in La ...shaq and kobe ...they play "team ball" there defence can hold jus about any team...and pistions are a very good team ...but the heat will fuqin ass RAPE THEM ...PROVE ME WRONG !Uhh, look at the heat's record last year, they were 20-50 something.. and look waht shaq brought to them, the pistons will stomp them, just like they did in the regular season :)

ChieF
05-07-2005, 05:22 PM
pistons/rockets.

rockets win in 7. :D

Never going to happen.

Opi
05-07-2005, 05:24 PM
yes it will. the pistons will beat the heat. just like they beat LA last year. because even if shaq/wade score lots of points like kobe and shaq did last year, the pistons can shut down the rest of the team with their defence......and they have more playoff experience.

as for the rockets, just because the suns did good in the regular season doesnt mean they're going to make the finals, look at the T-wolves and Pacers from last year, neither of them made the finals, yet they both won 60+ games.

or i could just be dreaming. :D

ChieF
05-07-2005, 05:24 PM
Shaq isnt even as dominate as he was a few years ago, he wont win another championship in his career.

The sun will take it in 6 games.

P4blo
05-08-2005, 02:29 AM
lol u guys are funny its not about pistons stoping shaq/wade...its about the "team" and if u guys know anything at all the heat arent good b/c of there offence..so i really dont know what all u are talking about.

Opi
05-08-2005, 08:48 AM
isnt that what i just said? "even if shaq/wade score a lot the pistons can shut down the rest of their team"

;)

VaDer.TiMe
05-08-2005, 09:11 AM
I Say Miami and pheonix but i want indiana REGGIE TIME

Gi] Is BacK STOP BY op Gi] and if wanted ask for a tryout :) love yall

tDo)Trinity
05-08-2005, 10:08 AM
actually...shaq lost like 55 pounds since playin for lakers last year, hes down to 325 from 370 last year...and pistons/suns playin each other, best defense with best offense, shaq/wade cant take pistons

2HoT
05-08-2005, 02:11 PM
Don't sleep on the Mavs :o. They have lots of playoff experience and probably one of the deepest teams in the league. Every year they put up a good fight in the West and this year just might be their year to win it.

Aggress
05-08-2005, 02:15 PM
phoenix is my fave team due to steve nash. wherever he goes thats my fave team. :) neways ill just say heat/pho and the heat win it 4-3

Fox
05-08-2005, 02:28 PM
Mavericks and heat
sad McGrady wasn t enough to hold of the mavs ;/
Best white player = Nash and he on pheonix so i dont really know....

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-08-2005, 02:43 PM
spurs will beat the phoenix suns..thanks

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-08-2005, 02:44 PM
yes it will. the pistons will beat the heat. just like they beat LA last year. because even if shaq/wade score lots of points like kobe and shaq did last year, the pistons can shut down the rest of the team with their defence......and they have more playoff experience.

as for the rockets, just because the suns did good in the regular season doesnt mean they're going to make the finals, look at the T-wolves and Pacers from last year, neither of them made the finals, yet they both won 60+ games.

or i could just be dreaming. :D

houstan got dominated by dallas..40 point margin of victory

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-08-2005, 02:46 PM
Yoa does not suck at all. damn people are retarded.

yao*******
and hes soft

gM.BlinX
05-08-2005, 02:47 PM
San Antonio will beat Phoenix in the West... ( lack of experiance for Phoenix )
Detroit will beat Heat in the East... (Pistons dont like to double team Shaq so they will have to force other players to score )
so Pistons / Spurs
Spurs win because they will play ugly style basketball..

darkkefu
05-08-2005, 02:52 PM
San Antonio will beat Phoenix in the West... ( lack of experiance for Phoenix )
Detroit will beat Heat in the East... (Pistons dont like to double team Shaq so they will have to force other players to score )
so Pistons / Spurs
Spurs win because they will play ugly style basketball..
bullshit, phoenix will explode and rape.

ortinowns
05-08-2005, 03:52 PM
MAVERICKS VS HEAT FINALS

i just bought tickets for Mavericks VS Pheonix game 3 at dallas, man they were sold out fast....$40 tickets....

Notorious
05-09-2005, 01:03 AM
yao*******
and hes soft


If you want I can go find a post of yours with a spelling error and point it out for you?


And please define what you mean by soft

P4blo
05-09-2005, 10:55 AM
actually...shaq lost like 55 pounds since playin for lakers last year, hes down to 325 from 370 last year...and pistons/suns playin each other, best defense with best offense, shaq/wade cant take pistonsty sum1 who knows what he is talking about

Cruzer
05-09-2005, 11:14 AM
i just started back watching here recently but i know tim duncan is awsome and i think spurs and heat/or phoenix but i dont like shaq cause he cant do anything unless he is really close to the rim unlike people like tim

Clutch
05-09-2005, 02:45 PM
Well..... really, truly, i want indiana to win it all only cuz reggie needs a title, M.J shut reggie down too many times...

skill wise..heat/detriot/indiana will be east, spurs/phoenix will be west Spurs>suns...

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-09-2005, 04:33 PM
If you want I can go find a post of yours with a spelling error and point it out for you?


And please define what you mean by soft

it wasnt a spelling error, you saw what some other idiot typed and copied it..

hes soft, hes 7'5ish (or 7'6) and averaged a whooping 8.4 rpg in the regular season, hes the teams "2nd best player" and averaged less mpg then..bobby sura..hes a subpar defender, he is notoriously (:D) bad at finishing in the paint..thus soft.. get it?

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-09-2005, 04:34 PM
i just started back watching here recently but i know tim duncan is awsome and i think spurs and heat/or phoenix but i dont like shaq cause he cant do anything unless he is really close to the rim unlike people like tim

spurs vs phoenix int he finals can't happen..thanks for trying though

Notorious
05-09-2005, 04:50 PM
it wasnt a spelling error, you saw what some other idiot typed and copied it..

hes soft, hes 7'5ish (or 7'6) and averaged a whooping 8.4 rpg in the regular season, hes the teams "2nd best player" and averaged less mpg then..bobby sura..hes a subpar defender, he is notoriously (:D) bad at finishing in the paint..thus soft.. get it?


Alright, this is Yao's 3rd season in the NBA. He averaged 8.4 rebounds this season. Lets take a look at a way way more dominant center and way more experienced center whos been in the league for 13 seasons, Shaquille O'neal. This season he averaged 10.4 rebounds per game. Thats only 2 more then Yao. And this is only Yao's 3rd season. He averaged 1 minute less than Sura lol and your trying to throw that out like it means sometihng. Not to mention that Sura is indeed a good player. Lol and this is Sura's 12th season in the NBA. Do you realize how fucking good Yao is going to be when it gets to his 12th or 13th season. Man think a little bit before you speak fucking idiot.

DaRkReBeL
05-09-2005, 05:13 PM
it wasnt a spelling error, you saw what some other idiot typed and copied it..

hes soft, hes 7'5ish (or 7'6) and averaged a whooping 8.4 rpg in the regular season, hes the teams "2nd best player" and averaged less mpg then..bobby sura..hes a subpar defender, he is notoriously (:D) bad at finishing in the paint..thus soft.. get it?this truely shows once again how people post w/o knowing the facts maybe Yao who plays in the chinese league over the summer and has no off season would need some rest compared to other players who have an off season and who can be in great shape and not tired at the start of the season w/ rigourous offseason training and ample rest but no Yao has to play in another league and thats why u cant expect a solid 48 minutes from him daily damn dude plz dont post shit w/o knowing wtf ur talking about

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-09-2005, 05:39 PM
Alright, this is Yao's 3rd season in the NBA. He averaged 8.4 rebounds this season. Lets take a look at a way way more dominant center and way more experienced center whos been in the league for 13 seasons, Shaquille O'neal. This season he averaged 10.4 rebounds per game. Thats only 2 more then Yao. And this is only Yao's 3rd season. He averaged 1 minute less than Sura lol and your trying to throw that out like it means sometihng. Not to mention that Sura is indeed a good player. Lol and this is Sura's 12th season in the NBA. Do you realize how fucking good Yao is going to be when it gets to his 12th or 13th season. Man think a little bit before you speak fucking idiot.

the bold parts are some of the stupidest statements i have ever heard

shaq is like..33 years old or so, and a players prime is 28-29..yao is improving, but we aint talkin' bout his 8th or 9th (by the time its his 12th/13th season, he will be far past his prime..idiot) we are talking about RIGHT NOW and right now he is a soft, range shooter who is only starting on an NBA team because hes tall

and sura is at least 34, he aint' that great, and he averaged more mins then yao

Notorious
05-09-2005, 05:41 PM
the bold parts are some of the stupidest statements i have ever heard

shaq is like..33 years old or so, and a players prime is 28-29..yao is improving, but we aint talkin' bout his 8th or 9th (by the time its his 12th/13th season, he will be far past his prime..idiot) we are talking about RIGHT NOW and right now he is a soft, range shooter who is only starting on an NBA team because hes tall

and sura is at least 34, he aint' that great, and he averaged more mins then yao


So you dont think Yao is going to be good at his 12th season of NBA?

Nightmare]eP[
05-09-2005, 05:42 PM
Phoenix is gonna b on the fianls and im almost 100% sure they gonna win!

Notorious
05-09-2005, 05:44 PM
eP[']Phoenix is gonna b on the fianls and im almost 100% sure they gonna win!


Thats almost more retarded then foresaken's thinking. Almost.

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-09-2005, 05:44 PM
this truely shows once again how people post w/o knowing the facts maybe Yao who plays in the chinese league over the summer and has no off season would need some rest compared to other players who have an off season and who can be in great shape and not tired at the start of the season w/ rigourous offseason training and ample rest but no Yao has to play in another league and thats why u cant expect a solid 48 minutes from him daily damn dude plz dont post shit w/o knowing wtf ur talking about

solid 48 mins eh? ok..48 mins = entire game..not "solid" you stupid shit

however, thats beside the point
y does it matter that yao plays year round? do we see him when he plays in some g00k championship? do the rockets get extra points every game for his weeks spent in china? NO. what he does in some foreign country, vs a bunch of other prissy fukin stick figures is completly irrelevant..as i just said to notorious, we are talking about RIGHT NOW, and right now hes not in the playoffs, hes not a good defender, hes a terrible rebounder for his size, and he is very weak in the paint.

Notorious
05-09-2005, 05:46 PM
solid 48 mins eh? ok..48 mins = entire game..not "solid" you stupid shit

however, thats beside the point
y does it matter that yao plays year round? do we see him when he plays in some g00k championship? do the rockets get extra points every game for his weeks spent in china? NO. what he does in some foreign country, vs a bunch of other prissy fukin stick figures is completly irrelevant..as i just said to notorious, we are talking about RIGHT NOW, and right now hes not in the playoffs, hes not a good defender, hes a terrible rebounder for his size, and he is very weak in the paint.

Well if Yao is a terrible rebounder, but gets only 2 less a game then Shaq...Then I guess Shaq isn't horrible, hes just bad right?

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-09-2005, 05:50 PM
So you dont think Yao is going to be good at his 12th season of NBA?

no i dont, as your brought up shaq, lets use him as an example. hes a dominate player because HE DOMINATES IN THE POST. He punishs defenders, he is an intimidating force on defense (though less so recently) and yes, he is not nearly as good as he once was, but he is dominate because he is a big, strong post defender. Yao will get better (already at the end of the season he was starting to finish with actual DUNKS in the post, rather then layups and fadeaways) and he will benefit alot from having an actual great player with him, and yes, when he hits his prime, he will probly be one of the best big men in the game..but once he hits 30, once his already subpar stamina starts declining even more, once he gets slower, he will become just another freakishly tall player whos only upside over all the other freakishly tall wannabe nba stars is his shooting..at 33 he'll be a bench player..i promise

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-09-2005, 05:52 PM
Well if Yao is a terrible rebounder, but gets only 2 less a game then Shaq...Then I guess Shaq isn't horrible, hes just bad right?

you say 2 less like its nothing..but there is a BIG difference between 8.4 and 10.4 (i assume being shaqs average) shaq is older and slower, not as tall, and he still gets into dbl digits on the boards..8.4 isnt bad..infact for a 6'8-'6'11 guy, its very, very good..but when your 7'6 you should get just about every board

X-Tricks-X
05-09-2005, 05:54 PM
Heres my opinion Fuck BBall and Fuck Hockey they both are BORING sports FootBall and Rugby are real sports!

Notorious
05-09-2005, 05:56 PM
no i dont, as your brought up shaq, lets use him as an example. hes a dominate player because HE DOMINATES IN THE POST. He punishs defenders, he is an intimidating force on defense (though less so recently) and yes, he is not nearly as good as he once was, but he is dominate because he is a big, strong post defender. Yao will get better (already at the end of the season he was starting to finish with actual DUNKS in the post, rather then layups and fadeaways) and he will benefit alot from having an actual great player with him, and yes, when he hits his prime, he will probly be one of the best big men in the game..but once he hits 30, once his already subpar stamina starts declining even more, once he gets slower, he will become just another freakishly tall player whos only upside over all the other freakishly tall wannabe nba stars is his shooting..at 33 he'll be a bench player..i promise


I bolded everything in that post I thought was 100% retarded.No he will not be a bench player at 33. And if you look at Shaqs stats. He hasnt got that much worse pal as he has aged. Sure hes gone downhill a little, but you said hes not NEARLY as good as he once was. If we take a look back say 4-5 years ago, he only averaged a rebound or so and 6-7 points more than he does now. So he hasnt gone down that badly. I can tell you know nothing about basketball and I can 100% tell just by how retarded you talk that you would probably be with worst player I have seen play it If I ever watched you play.

Notorious
05-09-2005, 05:57 PM
you say 2 less like its nothing..but there is a BIG difference between 8.4 and 10.4 (i assume being shaqs average) shaq is older and slower, not as tall, and he still gets into dbl digits on the boards..8.4 isnt bad..infact for a 6'8-'6'11 guy, its very, very good..but when your 7'6 you should get just about every board


Lol get just about every rebound? lmao your kidding right....

Notorious
05-09-2005, 05:57 PM
Heres my opinion Fuck BBall and Fuck Hockey they both are BORING sports FootBall and Rugby are real sports!


Heres my opinion fuck you cunt face.

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-09-2005, 05:59 PM
I bolded everything in that post I thought was 100% retarded.No he will not be a bench player at 33. And if you look at Shaqs stats. He hasnt got that much worse pal as he has aged. Sure hes gone downhill a little, but you said hes not NEARLY as good as he once was. If we take a look back say 4-5 years ago, he only averaged a rebound or so and 6-7 points more than he does now. So he hasnt gone down that badly. I can tell you know nothing about basketball and I can 100% tell just by how retarded you talk that you would probably be with worst player I have seen play it If I ever watched you play.


6-7 points is nothing huh? shaq used to avg 30+ 12+ easy, now he doesnt..he used to play more mins, he used to win championships every year..he used to be better..simple. Your a complete fucking moron..i was rather interested in this topic, as i love sports and i love discussing them, but apparently all the knowledgeable people are taking naps, and im left to talk to idiots like you.. :(

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-09-2005, 06:07 PM
eh :) hope the pics comeout

Notorious
05-09-2005, 09:23 PM
6-7 points is nothing huh? shaq used to avg 30+ 12+ easy, now he doesnt..he used to play more mins, he used to win championships every year..he used to be better..simple. Your a complete fucking moron..i was rather interested in this topic, as i love sports and i love discussing them, but apparently all the knowledgeable people are taking naps, and im left to talk to idiots like you.. :(


You know It's funny you call me an idiot. And you say Shaq used to average 30+ points a game easy when hes never once averaged 30 points in 1 of his NBA seasons. He got the rebound numbers, but you said 30 PLUS. not just 30, 30 PLUS. And hes never even averaged thirty. Lol. I love when people think they know it all.

A.Z.
05-09-2005, 10:59 PM
I hope the Spurs dont win the West. Am serious they so boring to watch for me. I say Phoenix/Heat, Miami Heat winning of course :)

Fox
05-09-2005, 11:13 PM
if it comes to it pheonix will kill the heat..

Clutch
05-09-2005, 11:22 PM
...ok let me cut the tension..ok...put it this way for whoever was talkin gabout yao...without height, he wouldn't really be good period....shaq is so dominant, changes the atmosphers anywhere......

thats reason why i say shaq>nash for mvp, dont get me wrong, nash did really good things this year, but loko at shaq, when he left the lakers..lakers still had kobe, but they aren't even close to making playoff..nash leaves dallas, dallas is still one of the top west teams.. yes...phoenix got more wins then miami, maybe thats y nash got mvp, but their win totals were close...

T.D one of the most fundamentalist players to play the game...everybody overlooks him as mvp, ( im not saying he deserved it this year ) but...only becase he never does anything specatacular, sometimes he'd come and give u 25/15 a night..sometimes less sometimes more..but he never does anything out of the ordinary, almost the same everynight..everyone can expect the same thing from t.d...when he was injured, .spurs went no where....

A.I........ A.I is a one man wrecking crew....he puts phili on his back game after game...his type of heart is unbelievable....hustles on defense and plays huge on offense... if shaq was somehow on phili with A.I ...wooooooo it would be like shaq and wade but better...

K.G....numbers didn't really change, but they way pple looked at him did..ever since minnesota started to suck, their players aren't even that bad....but the chemistry isn't there..

Lebron...what can i say, he was a bright story at the beginning of season...but that horrible droubht caused his mvp points to go down basically...with the firing of his coach, andall of that, ...and they still didnt' even make the play offs...i remember when they fired the coach cuz it was after they palyed my team ( Toronto) ..and lebron dropped 56 and still lost..eveyrthing was going good until after the all star break..things started to get rocky...and ya..

__________________________________________________ ______________________
I'd like to talk about why i wanted emeka to win rookie of the year instead of gordan...


Gordon - real clutch player as a rookie, averaged like 10-15 points in 4th quaters, and his team made it to the playoffs for first time since M.J was there....but points aren't everything..

Emeka- had the 2nd longest consequative double-double game as a rookie..had about 20 straight before it was broken, he surpassed shaq's ..i think 17 straight double doubles..also Emeka ended with 47 double doubles on the season, that was like the 4th in the nba, i think before nash, shaq, kg...also Emeka could score, but as a centre, he doesn't take the most shots, gordon off the bench probably takes more shots than emeka, and emeka is a centre, he doesn't really do anything specatacular for pple to notice....

well ya..i was bored..i jus felt like putting my prespectives out there...

A.Z.
05-09-2005, 11:30 PM
...ok let me cut the tension..ok...put it this way for whoever was talkin gabout yao...without height, he wouldn't really be good period....shaq is so dominant, changes the atmosphers anywhere......

thats reason why i say shaq>nash for mvp, dont get me wrong, nash did really good things this year, but loko at shaq, when he left the lakers..lakers still had kobe, but they aren't even close to making playoff..nash leaves dallas, dallas is still one of the top west teams.. yes...phoenix got more wins then miami, maybe thats y nash got mvp, but their win totals were close...

T.D one of the most fundamentalist players to play the game...everybody overlooks him as mvp, ( im not saying he deserved it this year ) but...only becase he never does anything specatacular, sometimes he'd come and give u 25/15 a night..sometimes less sometimes more..but he never does anything out of the ordinary, almost the same everynight..everyone can expect the same thing from t.d...when he was injured, .spurs went no where....

A.I........ A.I is a one man wrecking crew....he puts phili on his back game after game...his type of heart is unbelievable....hustles on defense and plays huge on offense... if shaq was somehow on phili with A.I ...wooooooo it would be like shaq and wade but better...

K.G....numbers didn't really change, but they way pple looked at him did..ever since minnesota started to suck, their players aren't even that bad....but the chemistry isn't there..

Lebron...what can i say, he was a bright story at the beginning of season...but that horrible droubht caused his mvp points to go down basically...with the firing of his coach, andall of that, ...and they still didnt' even make the play offs...i remember when they fired the coach cuz it was after they palyed my team ( Toronto) ..and lebron dropped 56 and still lost..eveyrthing was going good until after the all star break..things started to get rocky...and ya..

__________________________________________________ ______________________
I'd like to talk about why i wanted emeka to win rookie of the year instead of gordan...


Gordon - real clutch player as a rookie, averaged like 10-15 points in 4th quaters, and his team made it to the playoffs for first time since M.J was there....but points aren't everything..

Emeka- had the 2nd longest consequative double-double game as a rookie..had about 20 straight before it was broken, he surpassed shaq's ..i think 17 straight double doubles..also Emeka ended with 47 double doubles on the season, that was like the 4th in the nba, i think before nash, shaq, kg...also Emeka could score, but as a centre, he doesn't take the most shots, gordon off the bench probably takes more shots than emeka, and emeka is a centre, he doesn't really do anything specatacular for pple to notice....

well ya..i was bored..i jus felt like putting my prespectives out there...
Nice GJ :)

Clutch
05-09-2005, 11:31 PM
:D :D :D :D ThANKS!!!!

KaBaL
05-09-2005, 11:35 PM
it will beat heat suns im wagtchin the suns game right now steve nash deserved that mvp steve nash is the shit amare stouadamire or how ever hte fuck u spell it im high as hell but amare and Q rich is snappin suns will take it in 5 i said 6 at first but now its 5 suns are damn good

DaRkReBeL
05-09-2005, 11:47 PM
ok foresaken u have just proved to urself ur a moron a solid 48 mintues is a solid 48 minutes ur sayin 36 or w/e he avg is like playin 10 pg SO ud expect a a FULL game hence 48 MINTUES u fukin RETARD and shaq was never shit u add in his offensive fouls fouled out by the end of the 1st half every game k thx u fukin moron and fyi wilt the slit had 3882 minutes in a seaosn which is more than 48 per game k so it can be done and a solid 48 isnt THE MOST u can get so ill say w/e i want to and 30+ 12+ is shit compared to 50+ 25+ or his carrer avg 30+ 20+ shaq = garbage :) dont talk of him as a god cuz he isnt

KaBaL
05-09-2005, 11:49 PM
ok foresaken u have just proved to urself ur a moron a solid 48 mintues is a solid 48 minutes ur sayin 36 or w/e he avg is like playin 10 pg SO ud expect a a FULL game hence 48 MINTUES u fukin RETARD and shaq was never shit u add in his offensive fouls fouled out by the end of the 1st half every game k thx u fukin moron and fyi wilt the slit had 3882 minutes in a seaosn which is more than 48 per game k so it can be done and a solid 48 isnt THE MOST u can get so ill say w/e i want to and 30+ 12+ is shit compared to 50+ 25+ or his carrer avg 30+ 20+ shaq = garbage :) dont talk of him as a god cuz he isntLol nice i take it u dont like shaq ;D

P4blo
05-10-2005, 12:02 AM
lol ok some ppl made good predictions...but w/e happins i think the best m/u would be suns vs Heat..and it will be a great series ....or am i wrong ...dun dun dun...

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 06:28 AM
ok foresaken u have just proved to urself ur a moron a solid 48 mintues is a solid 48 minutes ur sayin 36 or w/e he avg is like playin 10 pg SO ud expect a a FULL game hence 48 MINTUES u fukin RETARD and shaq was never shit u add in his offensive fouls fouled out by the end of the 1st half every game k thx u fukin moron and fyi wilt the slit had 3882 minutes in a seaosn which is more than 48 per game k so it can be done and a solid 48 isnt THE MOST u can get so ill say w/e i want to and 30+ 12+ is shit compared to 50+ 25+ or his carrer avg 30+ 20+ shaq = garbage :) dont talk of him as a god cuz he isnt

besides the first few lines of that being completly unintelligible, heres the contradiction to what i THINK you were trying to say

there is 48 mins in a game..i promise..making 48mins = entire game..4 quarters, 12 min quarter=48 min game..simple simple simple

oh, and 3882/82=47.34 ..ok..yea

ANYHOW

gj notorious, i was wrong, he averaged 29+ quite frequently!! yay! gj for you man, you caught me :D course your still wrong, yao is still a soft, prissy shooter whos greatest asset is his freakish height, and shaq is still the most dominate player in the game, and his statitistics are STILL declining down to his lowest avg ppg ever..but .watever! i was off by 1 point a game:)

HoT[BoY]
05-10-2005, 07:06 AM
pheonix. no questions asked

Clutch
05-10-2005, 07:32 AM
Welll...if rebel hates shaq...and trying to bring him down....then hez stupid, cuz shaq doesnt' need to do only focus on his offensive presense..he changes the game when he steps on the court...everytime a pointgurad drives or a shooting guard drives...they have shaq in their head..also..if shaqs being double teamed or w/e..he just distributes the ball like an unselfish player... and shaq could score on anyone 1on1 in the post...soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo

dRaMa~
05-10-2005, 08:28 AM
iverson is a sexy mofo :D

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 04:39 PM
besides the first few lines of that being completly unintelligible, heres the contradiction to what i THINK you were trying to say

there is 48 mins in a game..i promise..making 48mins = entire game..4 quarters, 12 min quarter=48 min game..simple simple simple

oh, and 3882/82=47.34 ..ok..yea

ANYHOW

gj notorious, i was wrong, he averaged 29+ quite frequently!! yay! gj for you man, you caught me :D course your still wrong, yao is still a soft, prissy shooter whos greatest asset is his freakish height, and shaq is still the most dominate player in the game, and his statitistics are STILL declining down to his lowest avg ppg ever..but .watever! i was off by 1 point a game:)forsaken u no nothing about about basketball at all u only know modren times c this is exactly y i can never get a respectable opinion on NBA history from ppl on an online forum who beleive they know shit BUT they dont i got a qusetion number of games in the 61-62 season? 80 there was 80 in the nba up until the 66-67 season when there was 81 then the following season 67-68 season it became a 82 games regular season 3882/80 = 48.525 u dumbass dont test my basketball knowlege yes 48 = a whole game but the greatest player of all time would BE in EVERY minute of the game including the overtime games they had that season and btw i dont hate shaq i just cant stand when ppl overrate him and talk of him as an legend he is far from that top 25 i can c top 5 no top 10 no greatest player ever discussion HELL NO i hate when ppl talk of him as most dominate player ever not even close...lmao id like to c shaq be able to get 45 points in a game after gettin a knee injury nine games into a season that would have doctors highly recommending that u do not play untill the start of the next season and come back in w/ 3 games left in the season and still be the most dominate player in the league at age 33 though if ur good w/ ur history u can argue that point and say he was shot down by REED but thats b/c reed was a god when it came to being a defensive force but besides REED no one could handle Wilt even after a knee injuryt and basically cold turkeyin a playoff run ? his stats 23.3 pg and 24.1 rb and 4 apg while playin 47.57 minutes per game and id like to see shaq get 23+ and 24+ on reed when perfectly healthy *note reed left game 6 early chamberlain did drop 45 so yes his average is a lil high for ppg so id like to c him go 20+ and 24+*k forsaken anyway ur a moron

Clutch
05-10-2005, 05:03 PM
rebel...direct something at me..so i can blast u awaw with my basketball iq.....if u remain to direct ur things at..forsaken..thats coo too, ill jus read along :P

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 05:13 PM
sry clutch u dont say moronic things :(

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 05:14 PM
anyway back to the topic who u think makes finals and wins clutch? i say spurs in 6 over pistons

kramer
05-10-2005, 05:26 PM
All i gotta say is Wizzads is gonna win. Can't beat Antoine Jamison, Gilbert Arenas and Larry Hughes

Notorious
05-10-2005, 05:27 PM
gj notorious, i was wrong, he averaged 29+ quite frequently!! yay! gj for you man, you caught me :D course your still wrong, yao is still a soft, prissy shooter whos greatest asset is his freakish height, and shaq is still the most dominate player in the game, and his statitistics are STILL declining down to his lowest avg ppg ever..but .watever! i was off by 1 point a game:)

Actually your wrong again. You didn't say 30 pal, you said 30 PLUS. Thats over 30. Thats like 30-35. Haha.

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 05:40 PM
didnt one of those wizards fellow sit out the 2nd half due to tenditices in knee

Clutch
05-10-2005, 07:43 PM
lmao...wizards aren't even gona get 2 games passed the heat...and...honestly i want indiana to win, reggie needs a title...oter than that...heat vs spurs..

iunno who should win, i like em both..cuz i hate phoenix thnx.! :D

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 07:44 PM
Actually your wrong again. You didn't say 30 pal, you said 30 PLUS. Thats over 30. Thats like 30-35. Haha.

30+ by my thinking is 30.somthing..thanks

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 07:55 PM
forsaken u no nothing about about basketball at all u only know modren times c this is exactly y i can never get a respectable opinion on NBA history from ppl on an online forum who beleive they know shit BUT they dont i got a qusetion number of games in the 61-62 season? 80 there was 80 in the nba up until the 66-67 season when there was 81 then the following season 67-68 season it became a 82 games regular season 3882/80 = 48.525 u dumbass dont test my basketball knowlege yes 48 = a whole game but the greatest player of all time would BE in EVERY minute of the game including the overtime games they had that season and btw i dont hate shaq i just cant stand when ppl overrate him and talk of him as an legend he is far from that top 25 i can c top 5 no top 10 no greatest player ever discussion HELL NO i hate when ppl talk of him as most dominate player ever not even close...lmao id like to c shaq be able to get 45 points in a game after gettin a knee injury nine games into a season that would have doctors highly recommending that u do not play untill the start of the next season and come back in w/ 3 games left in the season and still be the most dominate player in the league at age 33 though if ur good w/ ur history u can argue that point and say he was shot down by REED but thats b/c reed was a god when it came to being a defensive force but besides REED no one could handle Wilt even after a knee injuryt and basically cold turkeyin a playoff run ? his stats 23.3 pg and 24.1 rb and 4 apg while playin 47.57 minutes per game and id like to see shaq get 23+ and 24+ on reed when perfectly healthy *note reed left game 6 early chamberlain did drop 45 so yes his average is a lil high for ppg so id like to c him go 20+ and 24+*k forsaken anyway ur a moron\

several things
1. You said "solid 48 mins" solid = Upstanding and dependable, Sound; reliable (being the two most relevant definitions from dictionary.com) and as NOONE averages 48 mins a game (cept apparently stilty) you can assume that to do so would be far beyond "reliable and dependable" yes?

2.Why are you talking about wilt chamberlain? are you stupid? when did this conversation EVER involve him? he played YEARS ago against a bunch of small, skinny white guys, and a VERY FEW great players. We were talking about yao ming being soft, talking about shaq being better then yao (obviously) about how yao will never be as good as shaq was in his prime, how when players hit thirty they get worse..we were never talking about stilt, who, by the way, isnt the best player ever...at all.

3.I know this may come as a shock to you, but being able to go to some website and look up wilts career statistics doesnt mean you know somthing about basketball..sorry, but when you say things like "SOLID 48 MINS" you prove yourself to be a complete idiot

4. Shaq is at least 33, and he is the most dominate player in a game filled with MUCH MUCH better players then wilt EVER faced

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 07:57 PM
anyway back to the topic who u think makes finals and wins clutch? i say spurs in 6 over pistons

good idea to get back on topic, i take spurs over heat in 7

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 07:59 PM
All i gotta say is Wizzads is gonna win. Can't beat Antoine Jamison, Gilbert Arenas and Larry Hughes

i think you serious...sadly..the wizards needed forever to take out the bulls, who were missing Loul Deng AND Eddy curry..how are they going to take dwade and shaq????

Clutch
05-10-2005, 08:36 PM
although the wizards thing is true,, chicago was ranked higher than them

Clutch
05-10-2005, 08:39 PM
ok im not reading w/e someone said bout wilt chamberlian..but facts are..

it was remarable to hear about a 100 point effort...

then again, competition wasn't this high..

plus..he was probably really dominatnt...in that 100 point game, he had like 50 + rebounds or something, I THINK...

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 08:43 PM
\

several things
1. You said "solid 48 mins" solid = Upstanding and dependable, Sound; reliable (being the two most relevant definitions from dictionary.com) and as NOONE averages 48 mins a game (cept apparently stilty) you can assume that to do so would be far beyond "reliable and dependable" yes?

2.Why are you talking about wilt chamberlain? are you stupid? when did this conversation EVER involve him? he played YEARS ago against a bunch of small, skinny white guys, and a VERY FEW great players. We were talking about yao ming being soft, talking about shaq being better then yao (obviously) about how yao will never be as good as shaq was in his prime, how when players hit thirty they get worse..we were never talking about stilt, who, by the way, isnt the best player ever...at all.

3.I know this may come as a shock to you, but being able to go to some website and look up wilts career statistics doesnt mean you know somthing about basketball..sorry, but when you say things like "SOLID 48 MINS" you prove yourself to be a complete idiot

4. Shaq is at least 33, and he is the most dominate player in a game filled with MUCH MUCH better players then wilt EVER facedbro ur a fukin idiot knowing basketball is knowing when the rule change? u no shit about bball u thought there were 82 games BACK THEN LMAO but yet ur gonna commet on the ppl he played against? and its not looking up his stats its knowing them as fact best single season of any player ever was wilts 61-62 season and he didnt get the mvp LOL! WIlt entered the conversation when u started saying shaq is amazing etc.. w/e u said but ur a moron and his 30+ 12+ or w/e try to avg that and i came back and said try to average this ? and did u commet on it NO cuz u got proven wrong YET AGAIN u dumb fuk and u say no shit about bball a FEW GOOD PLAYERS LOL u no MJ woulda been shit w/o the RULE changes that WILT got put into effect? can u name thoes rules that were changed can u even tell me how small the paint use to be? can u ? no u can not u no y cuz u no shit about bball but yet u act like u can comment on how good wilt was, who wilt played against, and how many games there were in a season and the whole solid 48 minutes if u would actually fukin read was b/c u were saying YAO is fukin soft omfg how retarded u r and cant play more than 37 mins or w/e 37 minutes is a 3/4 of a game but u talk of it as like its 12 minutes so i say solid 48 minutes to comment on how retarded that is b/c if u compare 3/4 to 1/4 in the tone u were using in ur posts then what do u expect him to the whole damn game or more than 48 minutes like Wilt did and MR FORSAKENINOSHITABOUTBASKETBAL who is the greatest player of all time then? and u say Yao is soft for not playin all those minutes what would u say to some1 who has came into the regular season out of shape? and if shaq is so damn domininate y didnt he score 45 points pg in last years finals? ur so fukin retarded its so funny i mean seriously u no shit and u act like u no alot and ur gonna question me on FACTS

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 08:48 PM
it was remarable to hear about a 100 point effort...

then again, competition wasn't this high..
try 50+ game in a much tougher league? for a season ill quote god cant remebr his name old sixers player played w/ wilt god damn not an exact quote but the jest "if shaq were to go up against wilt back then hed push up on him be lucky not to get an offensive foul then come back and spin and around and shoot the ball and then it wilt will block it" he also said "shaq and mj would be lucky to average a combined 35 points per game back in that era" ok this is coming from some1 who actually played in the nba and actually knows his shit not ppl who can barely make 1 out of 3 3s and cant even dunk on a 10 ft net competition as u said might not have been "this high" which is the bullshit but even if u say so then y wouldnt mj and shaq be able to avg what mj did in one season once? exactly cuz it was much harder back then

Easy
05-10-2005, 09:02 PM
rebel please dude.. times have changed.... WILT was the only fucking 7 footer around during that time.. it was just a matter of size and nothing more.. shaq is garbage, i agree, but he is obviously the #1 most dominant player to EVER play.. yes including MJ who wasnt the best in my mind. In 10 years, lebron james will have broken all of MJ's scoring records with 5 more years left in his tank. The athletes of this day and time are 10x the athletes of WILT's time.. imagine shaq backing down on wilt in the post.. :( Wilt was nicknamed "the stilt" .. it woulda been "the rug" after shaq was finished with him.. :(


O BTW... spurs will win the championship over the pistons in 5 .. pistons will take game 1 K?

why? GINOBILI!!!!!!!!!!!

Clutch
05-10-2005, 09:03 PM
hmm...i dont agree..M.j..average and shaq combine for 35/??? well i know..that the number of skilled players..weren't the same as the level we have now...

Clutch
05-10-2005, 09:05 PM
naw easy..M.J was sick.....and he stayed more years for his education...

and..shaq is the most dominant, but alot of you pple say hez shit, but then again alot of you forget how good he can run the floor for a person his size....'

who do uthink would win in a race.. shaq or tractor trailer?


back to wilt topic..he was like the biggest person in nba era back then..

Easy
05-10-2005, 09:09 PM
yea wilt was just bigger than everyone.. it wasn't fair.. nowadays everyteam has some 7 foot goon .. or they suck

Easy
05-10-2005, 09:10 PM
and i know shaq isnt shit, i just hate him cause ima spurs fan, but i got 10x more respect for his style of play than kobe's, and he would actually lose a race against tractor traylor.. tractor is a fucking race horse man unless it was down hill where shaq's momentum would pwn up tractor

Easy
05-10-2005, 09:12 PM
anyways spurs should take the championship easily this year, now that the lakers aren't around 2 steal the show.. and i know the heat are basicly the lakers with better role players blah blah, but dispite the tensions, shaq+kobe is 10x shaq+wade just due 2 experience together... if shaq was younger and could bewith wade for 5 more years then maybe they could amount 2 what kobe and shaq were.

Easy
05-10-2005, 09:13 PM
<--out, peace

Clutch
05-10-2005, 09:14 PM
thats the kind of racing i was talking about :) .....but yes....u dont have to be a fan of shaqs, to know what he can do..like..he isnt' going to play a game and shoot the lights out...but he'll come and try to do the same thing everyday..jus like TD....

ps.. i dont like phoenix, i dont like nash, marion's shot is so funny...i like q rich and the beast

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 09:18 PM
bro ur a fukin idiot knowing basketball is knowing when the rule change? u no shit about bball u thought there were 82 games BACK THEN LMAO but yet ur gonna commet on the ppl he played against? and its not looking up his stats its knowing them as fact best single season of any player ever was wilts 61-62 season and he didnt get the mvp LOL! WIlt entered the conversation when u started saying shaq is amazing etc.. w/e u said but ur a moron and his 30+ 12+ or w/e try to avg that and i came back and said try to average this ? and did u commet on it NO cuz u got proven wrong YET AGAIN u dumb fuk and u say no shit about bball a FEW GOOD PLAYERS LOL u no MJ woulda been shit w/o the RULE changes that WILT got put into effect? can u name thoes rules that were changed can u even tell me how small the paint use to be? can u ? no u can not u no y cuz u no shit about bball but yet u act like u can comment on how good wilt was, who wilt played against, and how many games there were in a season and the whole solid 48 minutes if u would actually fukin read was b/c u were saying YAO is fukin soft omfg how retarded u r and cant play more than 37 mins or w/e 37 minutes is a 3/4 of a game but u talk of it as like its 12 minutes so i say solid 48 minutes to comment on how retarded that is b/c if u compare 3/4 to 1/4 in the tone u were using in ur posts then what do u expect him to the whole damn game or more than 48 minutes like Wilt did and MR FORSAKENINOSHITABOUTBASKETBAL who is the greatest player of all time then? and u say Yao is soft for not playin all those minutes what would u say to some1 who has came into the regular season out of shape? and if shaq is so damn domininate y didnt he score 45 points pg in last years finals? ur so fukin retarded its so funny i mean seriously u no shit and u act like u no alot and ur gonna question me on FACTS




you do realize that misspelling every other word and sounding like your completely pissed at me makes you look like an idiot.. right? course, you are an idiot, so maybe its appropriate

you added nothing at all to your argument, though a smaller paint would help a big man, as they can camp out closer to the rim..but whatever

I said that yao was soft for several reasons, his lacking stamina being one of them. If you watched the rockets play ( I don’t know if you do or not ) you would see that he plays maybe 30 mins of good basketball, and about 7 of halfass, lazy, tired basketball that looks and is pathetic.

Im fairly sure that anyone with any sense at all, which clearly excludes you, knows that shaq is the most dominate player in the game today..I never said that he was better then wilt, I didn’t compare him to wilt till recently, and then I only compared their competition. Im also certain that those same sensible people will acknowledge that shaq is better then yao.

Im not even sure what, besides your completely stupid remark about "48 solid mins", we are arguing about.

Finally, im completely capable and knowledgeable enough to look back at the time period in which wilt played, and no reasonable person (once again excluding you) can argue that the competition today is a great deal better then the competition in the 60s

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 09:28 PM
and yao is one of the biggest now y isnt he doing the same as wilt? ez god damn wilt was fukin 7 1 275 pounds lmao wilt was extremely fast very fast actually and had ridiculous endurance name another player who scored 50+ 118 times easy wilts records still stand what the fuk in ur mind make u think that lebron would even touch them? id still like to see someone get a 20-20-20 can u guess the only player to do that yup chamberlain johnny green one of the players on the knicks who he playted against 6-6 200 lbs willie naulls nicknamed the whale 6-6 225 lbs phill jordon 6 10 cleveland buckner 6-9 and another 6-9 and another 6-10 so the Size was 3 inches smaller than him ? he was head over heels taller and he was playin against a bunch of midgets when he scored 100 lmfao, yes i had to look that up :( wilt bellamy 6-11 2 inches shorter than chamberlain should i name more?

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 09:37 PM
you do realize that misspelling every other word and sounding like your completely pissed at me holy fukin shit maybe i am fukin pist at you cuz i cant fukin stand fukin ppl who fukin post fukin stupid fukin shit that fukin pisses me off so fukin much its fukin ridiculous how fukin retarded some fukin ppl can fukin be k? and back to ur shit what shaq does handcheckin oppoents something mj also did alot of was illegal when wilt played rules changed so ppl like wilt wouldnt completely reck the league like he did and i never said shaq wasnt the most dominiate player in the league so stop tring to put words in my mouth

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 09:45 PM
and yao is one of the biggest now y isnt he doing the same as wilt?

as i said, yao is soft and he isnt athletic

ez god damn wilt was fukin 7 1 275 pounds lmao wilt was extremely fast very fast actually and had ridiculous endurance name another player who scored 50+ 118 times easy wilts records still stand what the fuk in ur mind make u think that lebron would even touch them?

im pretty sure he was talking about mjs records, not that i can name any offhand

id still like to see someone get a 20-20-20 can u guess the only player to do that yup chamberlain johnny green one of the players on the knicks who he playted against 6-6 200 lbs willie naulls nicknamed the whale 6-6 225 lbs phill jordon 6 10 cleveland buckner 6-9 and another 6-9 and another 6-10 so the Size was 3 inches smaller than him ? he was head over heels taller and he was playin against a bunch of midgets when he scored 100 lmfao, yes i had to look that up :( wilt bellamy 6-11 2 inches shorter than chamberlain should i name more?

by all means, name more of them. You proved nothing, none of them (so far) are seven footers, and i would be greatly suprised if any of them were very athletic. Both the size and the athletism of players has gone up. I have never said that wilt wasnt good, he was. He was very, very good. He was probly the most athletic seven footer ever. However, he is not the greatest player ever, infact, he isnt even one of the top three..sorry

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 09:46 PM
and back to ur shit what shaq does handcheckin oppoents something mj also did alot of was illegal when wilt played rules changed so ppl like wilt wouldnt completely reck the league like he did

excellent! thank you for proving my point, the rule changes hurt shaq. Who knows? mybe were the same rules in place, shaq would be as dominate :) Your a complete fucktard

Notorious
05-10-2005, 09:50 PM
30+ by my thinking is 30.somthing..thanks


Exactley my point...lol..

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 09:51 PM
Exactley my point...lol..

no it wasnt, you said 30-35 i said 30.somthing

(NOTICE THE .! AS IN 30.0 - 30.9)

Opi
05-10-2005, 09:52 PM
who...

cares.....

about.....

30, or 30+, or 30. something!?!?!? ITS ONLY A COUPLE POINTS DiFFERENT!!

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 09:52 PM
omfg ur a complete fucktard LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL if it wasnt for that rule shaq fouls out from offensive fouls everygame how did it hurt shaq plz tell me? and keep in mind shaq wasnt nearly as phyiscally able throughout his carrer as chamberlain was and chamerbalin also was stronger than shaq u complete fucktard shaq doesnt have the speed to get by ppl w/o his handchecking u complete fucktard u proved my point a few posts back where u said shaq pushes off his defenders or some shit so GJ :) your a complete fucktard

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 09:53 PM
who...

cares.....

about.....

30, or 30+, or 30. something!?!?!? ITS ONLY A COUPLE POINTS DiFFERENT!!its just proving forsaken wrong since he wont admit it and its fun for me cuz hes a complete fucktard :)

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 09:55 PM
omfg ur a complete fucktard LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL if it wasnt for that rule shaq fouls out from offensive fouls everygame how did it hurt shaq plz tell me? and keep in mind shaq wasnt nearly as phyiscally able throughout his carrer as chamberlain was and chamerbalin also was stronger than shaq u complete fucktard shaq doesnt have the speed to get by ppl w/o his handchecking u complete fucktard u proved my point a few posts back where u said shaq pushes off his defenders or some shit so GJ :) your a complete fucktard

i never said that..sorry..and shaq is DEFINETLY stronger then wilt..you really are stupid

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 09:56 PM
its just proving forsaken wrong since he wont admit it and its fun for me cuz hes a complete fucktard :)

seeing as what opium was quoting didnt come from you or stem from any of the stupid things youve said..

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 09:56 PM
he isnt even one of the top three..sorryname them bitchass? and whats 2 fukin inches it makes very lil differnce and wilt was a beast i bet shaq would be soft if hed fuked over 20k women thx wheres his god damn endurance?

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 09:58 PM
r u a laker fan mr cali

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 09:59 PM
name them bitchass? and whats 2 fukin inches it makes very lil differnce and wilt was a beast i bet shaq would be soft if hed fuked over 20k women thx wheres his god damn endurance?

what did that last comment have to do with anything? at all? 20k women? was it wilt who wrote the bullshit selfbiography that every single midly intelligent person scoffs at? i didnt know

AND in my opinion
1. MJ
2/3 Magic Johnson//Larry Bird depending on your race

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 09:59 PM
r u a laker fan mr cali

yes i am, and because thats to short to post, ill reinfore the fact that you're an idiot

DaRkReBeL
05-10-2005, 10:03 PM
explains ur love for shaq and its funny how u have yet to prove me wrong and ive proved ur wrong many times and i even proved u wrong when u attempted to contridicate me w/ ur so called facts and yet im the idiot? and btw wilt also played on the lakers w/ another great player named Jerry West not sure if u no who that is considering he is be4 ur time and in an era u no nothing about and u want more of wilts records cuz there r tons if i choose and list all the reasons y mj is number 1 plz cuz i cant fukin wait to hear these johnson good choice also better than mj, bird meh arguable unlike mj cant wait for your reasons im out for 2nite

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 10:09 PM
mj is the best because he was the focal point of a team that won 6 championships, he was the best clutch player ever. Statistics dont determine everything my ignorant friend, i bet you think dan marinos the greatest QB ever to eh? idiot

prove you wrong on what? i havent tried to prove you wrong on anything. You consistantly throw out pointless statistics and kiss stilts ass, but you dont actually make any points..at all. And what have you proved me wrong on?

im not sure what jerry west has to do with this conversation..at all. Infact, he has nothing to do with it..AT ALL. He was a very good player, but really, the most notable thing about him is that his image is used as the NBA's logo(least im pretty sure thats him)

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 10:09 PM
and kareem abdul jabar (sp mybe) is the career leader in points..guess wilt just didnt have the staying power :)

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-10-2005, 10:11 PM
explains ur love for shaq

i dont love shaq. It doesnt take love to figure out that hes better then yao ming and stronger then wilt...sorry..if you took time to think (if your capable of doing so) and some time to read, youll notice that i said shaq was declining..why? because he is

aether-storm
05-10-2005, 10:41 PM
Prince owns anyone:
http://beatsandrants.blogs.com/hiphop/images/_Dave_Chappelle_As_Prince.jpg

Clutch
05-11-2005, 11:36 AM
true..kareem... is altime leading scorer in history...him and magic made a good combo...

also...Mj is like the best, the most clutch down the stretch, the whole game he canjus keep scoring...almost unstopable in his prime....

DaRkReBeL
05-11-2005, 08:03 PM
unstopable in his prime? it took a team of great players for him to even win a championship and mr forsaken i proved u wrong on 48+ mins mr i dont no shit about bball

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-11-2005, 08:13 PM
unstopable in his prime? it took a team of great players for him to even win a championship and mr forsaken i proved u wrong on 48+ mins mr i dont no shit about bball

you said that there were more then 48 mins in a game..

team of great players? jordan pippen and who?

IEatWallPaper
05-11-2005, 08:29 PM
Best rebounder, Rodman was with Jordon too. But, you know Jordon was a great player.

Easy
05-11-2005, 08:54 PM
don't forget STEVE KERR and not 2 mention LUC LONGLEY AND TONI KUKOC!! + ron harper that pimp

Easy
05-11-2005, 08:57 PM
u know let's just change the topic, i saw during the spurs game last night a stat that u won't ever see again... Robert Horry has played 13 seasons in the NBA... all 13 he has made the playoffs.. i think steve kerr may have done the same almost.. those 2 are always winning championships-_- And don't tell me the celtics who won 16 years in a row or w/e had players who won the title every year of their career, cause there was like 8 teams in the fucking league back then and they had all the good players.

Horry is a badass.. u see him act like hes gonna run back 2 defense then he turns around n steals the inbound pass? so pimp.

Easy
05-11-2005, 09:00 PM
i reccomend u guys watch a spurs game if u get the chance, and keep your eye on #20(ginobili).. he's the most entertaining player in the playoffs besides maybe wade.. takes it 2 the basket when he fucking wants to.

Opi
05-11-2005, 09:05 PM
the sad thing i think about everytime i watch a pistons game is.......

how much better they'd be if they hadnt been retarded and had drafted carmelo, OR chris bosh, OR dwayne wade instead of...darko milicic.

i was watching an NBA game earlier this year of the pistons, and they had on tv the Points per game of the top 5 choices of the draft of 2003. (lebron, darko, carmelo chris bosh, and dwayne wade in that order), the points were like:

20 something
1.1
20
16
20 something

i cried... :( :( :(

Funky
05-11-2005, 09:07 PM
It's true, drafting him was a bad move, any of the others would have been better, he's not that good.

Opi
05-11-2005, 09:08 PM
1.1 points per game. do u know how sad that is? he played a total of 5 minutes in the finals last year vs the lakers......he broke his hand in those 5 minutes.

Clutch
05-11-2005, 09:13 PM
Rebel your just making yourself look stupid...anyone , i mean anyone who is trying to say jordan sucked...IS STUPID

cuz look...not 1 player can win nba championsihps bythemselves..its all team..

Kobe ,Shaq,horry came up big sometimes / Duncan, Robinson, / Joe Dumars, Isiah Thomis,/ Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Magic / r.hamilton, ben + rasheed wallace, billups / ........

just because jordan had a supporting cast to win a championships..that doesn't take anything away from how good he was, in the clutch, he took the game onto his shoulders, he didn't need the rest ofthe team...

Opi
05-11-2005, 09:16 PM
indeed, jordan might not have won 6 championships in a row if he didnt have a good supporting cast, but to tell me it was none of jordan's credit that they won any is bullshit. without jordan, pippen and the rest of the team would've floundered.

Kaotix
05-11-2005, 09:31 PM
miami wont win for sure

Wade + Shaq = Kobe + Shaq

too bad raptors aint in it to own everyone =)

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-11-2005, 09:38 PM
the sad thing i think about everytime i watch a pistons game is.......

how much better they'd be if they hadnt been retarded and had drafted carmelo, OR chris bosh, OR dwayne wade instead of...darko milicic.

i was watching an NBA game earlier this year of the pistons, and they had on tv the Points per game of the top 5 choices of the draft of 2003. (lebron, darko, carmelo chris bosh, and dwayne wade in that order), the points were like:

20 something
1.1
20
16
20 something

i cried... :( :( :(

darko had, and might still have, the most upside of any of the top 5 (cept for lebron) the pistons drafted him because they were already the 2nd best team in the eastern conference (they got the pick through a trade) and took darko as a project. Its only been 2 years, its far to soon to think of him as a bust. He wasnt ever expected to be ready to contribute as a rookie, youll see more of him the next few years :)

DaRkReBeL
05-11-2005, 09:55 PM
LOL! clutch and forsaken u to must be by far the most retarded ppl ever WHERE DID I FUKIN SAY JORDAN SUCKED? PLZ FUKIN TELL ME? PLZ QUOTE IT BOLD IT DO W/E u 2 cant comprehend shit and u stupid retarded forsaken for the 4th time I SAID 48 MINUTES B/C the way u talked about 37 minutes made it sound like yao was only playin 12 minutes PER GAME THATS WHAT PG stands for and then i said what do u expect a SOLID 48 MINTUES PG <-- pergame and u came back w/ its impossible to avg 48 mins or w/e and i told u that wilt avged more than 48 mins a season 48.525 to be exact i guess u have never heard of overtime have u?

DaRkReBeL
05-11-2005, 09:59 PM
you said that there were more then 48 mins in a game..

team of great players? jordan pippen and who?lmao u truely no nothing about basketball to bad i had to go or i would have gladly proven u wrong keep in mind i doubt u no this 94-95 season w/o rodamn they lost in eastern semifinals or finals besides the point he was unstopable in his prime best down the strech where was he there? and also keep in mind if ur gonna aruge he didnt play rusty or w/e chamberlain was there after gettin an injury if u want to comprae the two

can i get ur reasons as to why he is the best ? cornstone of championships ur only reason? then y isnt bill russel the best? he had 11 if ur only reason is championships then russel would be the best so gj so far forsaken and clutch also gj on not being able to understand my posts and gj in a terrible attempt to put words into mouth GJ

Clutch
05-11-2005, 10:02 PM
"unstopable in his prime? it took a team of great players for him to """even""" win a championship"

your trying to doubt his skill here?

DaRkReBeL
05-11-2005, 10:02 PM
indeed, jordan might not have won 6 championships in a row if he didnt have a good supporting cast, but to tell me it was none of jordan's credit that they won any is bullshit. without jordan, pippen and the rest of the team would've floundered.opium once again ur wrong do u no jordans impact on his team? very marginal the bulls only lost 2 more games w/o jordan he had the best supporting cast by far of any great basketball legend b/c when they left their teams losses were at least 12 higher than the year be4 ONLY 2 GAMES

DaRkReBeL
05-11-2005, 10:03 PM
"unstopable in his prime? it took a team of great players for him to """even""" win a championship"

your trying to doubt his skill here?did i say he sucked? yes or no answer that question

IEatWallPaper
05-11-2005, 10:04 PM
Rebel, put it this way. He made his supporting cast good. When Pippen went to a diff team, he could still nail some threes but not to the extent. Jordon makes everyone better.

DaRkReBeL
05-11-2005, 10:05 PM
actually ieatwallpaper his supporting cast when still intact not with different teams had better years w/o jordan

IEatWallPaper
05-11-2005, 10:05 PM
Oh, and rebel, you're IMPLYING he sucked.

DaRkReBeL
05-11-2005, 10:09 PM
no i am not im implying he isnt the fukin best there ever was hes top 7 i have him 5 or so its hard so many great players

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 06:23 AM
LOL! clutch and forsaken u to must be by far the most retarded ppl ever WHERE DID I FUKIN SAY JORDAN SUCKED? PLZ FUKIN TELL ME? PLZ QUOTE IT BOLD IT DO W/E u 2 cant comprehend shit and u stupid retarded forsaken for the 4th time I SAID 48 MINUTES B/C the way u talked about 37 minutes made it sound like yao was only playin 12 minutes PER GAME THATS WHAT PG stands for and then i said what do u expect a SOLID 48 MINTUES PG <-- pergame and u came back w/ its impossible to avg 48 mins or w/e and i told u that wilt avged more than 48 mins a season 48.525 to be exact i guess u have never heard of overtime have u?

"solid 48mins" say it all, your a complete idiot
and please explain how you got 12mins a game from anything i said? you are so fucking stupid.

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 06:24 AM
lmao u truely no nothing about basketball to bad i had to go or i would have gladly proven u wrong keep in mind i doubt u no this 94-95 season w/o rodamn they lost in eastern semifinals or finals besides the point he was unstopable in his prime best down the strech where was he there? and also keep in mind if ur gonna aruge he didnt play rusty or w/e chamberlain was there after gettin an injury if u want to comprae the two

can i get ur reasons as to why he is the best ? cornstone of championships ur only reason? then y isnt bill russel the best? he had 11 if ur only reason is championships then russel would be the best so gj so far forsaken and clutch also gj on not being able to understand my posts and gj in a terrible attempt to put words into mouth GJ

that you are even disputing the FACT that jordan is the greatest player ever proves that your an idiot. The bulls DIED once jordan left

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 06:25 AM
actually ieatwallpaper his supporting cast when still intact not with different teams had better years w/o jordan

no they didnt

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 11:06 AM
forsaken u talked about 37 mins like yao was only playin 12 mins

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 11:07 AM
The bulls DIED once jordan leftthey lost only 2 more games once jordan left how is that dying? gj on proving ur a moron

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 04:35 PM
forsaken u talked about 37 mins like yao was only playin 12 mins

i never said anything about 37 mins, i said he "played less mpg then bobby sura" and i insulted your stupid comment about "48 solid mins"
idiot

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 04:38 PM
they lost only 2 more games once jordan left how is that dying? gj on proving ur a moron

that was after his first retirement, and they lost in the semifinals. Had he been there, it woulda been 4 straight. When youve won 3 championships in a row and then fail to reach the finals the next year, you died :)

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 04:40 PM
his 2nd retirement they went from a .756 winning pct to a .260 winning pct..granted they lost pip/rodmen/phil jackson...but still, i think that also qualifies as dieing

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 05:03 PM
that was after his first retirement, and they lost in the semifinals. Had he been there, it woulda been 4 straight. When youve won 3 championships in a row and then fail to reach the finals the next year, you died :)umm no u dont die and im sry hakeem the dream was playin some of the best single season basketball and playoff dominiation that i have ever seen even w/ mj i doubt they coulda beat him he was on a mission

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 05:04 PM
granted they lost pip/rodmen/phil jackson...exactly and ur 4gettin some of the other important role players but i wouldnt expect u to no that so y do u consider him the best? and if u wanna know teams dyin look at the other great players after they left thats a team dyin just losing 1 player

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 05:23 PM
umm no u dont die and im sry hakeem the dream was playin some of the best single season basketball and playoff dominiation that i have ever seen even w/ mj i doubt they coulda beat him he was on a mission

they woulda won with jordan..easy..you really are stupid

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 05:28 PM
thx for not disputing that the team didnt die so r u gonna admit once again u were wrong?

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 06:32 PM
i already disputed it idiot, you can tell cause i said "THEY DIED" in a previous post..they did die :)

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 06:37 PM
i already disputed it idiot, you can tell cause i said "THEY DIED" in a previous post..they did die :)the only lost 2 more games w/o JORDAN how can u say THAT THEY DIED FROM THAT ?

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 06:40 PM
a few more reasons as to jordan made ppl better as u say y is it that PIPPEN had his best season w/o jordan? and y is it that jordan was not goin to play w/o pippen ? and y couldnt he just make scott burrel a much better player if he made pippen such a good player? answer all three thx

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 06:41 PM
another thing Steve keer had his finest season w/o jordan but yet u say nobody has better seasons w/o jordan then how did keer have his finest season w/o jordan ? can u answer this too and if ur gonna say that jordan is the best player ever undisputely then answer this y did the greatest player ever lack the skills to be a point guard?

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 07:11 PM
they woulda won with jordan..easy..you really are stupidw00t i get to prove u wrong again u dumb fuktard if they had jordan they woulda easy and im stupid for saying this? excuse me but didnt they have jordan in the 94-95 season ? YES they did but im stupid for saying that? and did they win in the title in the 94-95 season? NO they didnt but im stupid for saying that they woulda had a tough time winning in 94? but w/ jordan they woulda won easy then y didnt they win easy in 95? b/c jordan was missing one of his KEY role players horace grant who ironically was on the magic who beat them in the eastern semi-finals 2-4 to orlando Now this is gonna blow ur mind unless ur really an idiot the year when they didnt have jordan at all WHO IF THEY HAD WOULDA WON EASY 94 postseason they did better than the year w/ jordan LMAO!! they forced a game 7 in the eastern semi-finals instead of losing 6 and if ur gonna argue Jordan is rusty which i bet u do keep in mind when he scored 63 points he only played 18 games during the regular season he played 17 games in the 94-95 season jordan cannot win a championship w/o an amazing supporting cast

Opi
05-12-2005, 07:14 PM
Every Star needs a supporting cast to win..........

just look at Allen Iverson, no supporting cast, no championship.

tracy mcgrady back when he was in the magic? same thing

Vince carter in toronto? same thing. Paul Pierce in Boston before they got Antoine Walker back? same as the rest.

Wilt chamberlain vs Bill russel and the celtics? wilt was the better player arguabley, but his 76'ers werent half as good as the rest of the celtics....

*note: i could be wrong about that being wilt chamberlain, i forget the name, i think it was him though.

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 07:19 PM
w00t i get to prove u wrong again u dumb fuktard if they had jordan they woulda easy and im stupid for saying this? excuse me but didnt they have jordan in the 94-95 season ? YES they did but im stupid for saying that? and did they win in the title in the 94-95 season? NO they didnt but im stupid for saying that they woulda had a tough time winning in 94? but w/ jordan they woulda won easy then y didnt they win easy in 95? b/c jordan was missing one of his KEY role players horace grant who ironically was on the magic who beat them in the eastern semi-finals 2-4 to orlando Now this is gonna blow ur mind unless ur really an idiot the year when they didnt have jordan at all WHO IF THEY HAD WOULDA WON EASY 94 postseason they did better than the year w/ jordan LMAO!! they forced a game 7 in the eastern semi-finals instead of losing 6 and if ur gonna argue Jordan is rusty which i bet u do keep in mind when he scored 63 points he only played 18 games during the regular season he played 17 games in the 94-95 season jordan cannot win a championship w/o an amazing supporting cast

trying to read through this is annoying, at least try express your bullshit in such a way as that its not so confusing...please

simple fact, the bullls never won a championship without jordan..owned

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 07:20 PM
the only lost 2 more games w/o JORDAN how can u say THAT THEY DIED FROM THAT ?

they lost in the playoffs, which is the only time that games matter

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 07:22 PM
a few more reasons as to jordan made ppl better as u say y is it that PIPPEN had his best season w/o jordan? and y is it that jordan was not goin to play w/o pippen ? and y couldnt he just make scott burrel a much better player if he made pippen such a good player? answer all three thx

because pippen became the focus of the bulls offense, rather then jordan. He did play without pippen..he just didnt win without him. Who the fuck is scott burrel and what kinda stupid question is that? pippen was good all by himself, he was BETTER with jordan. This idiot you just mentioned probly was never good. Jordan certainly couldnt make me or you into good players :)

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 07:23 PM
another thing Steve keer had his finest season w/o jordan but yet u say nobody has better seasons w/o jordan then how did keer have his finest season w/o jordan ? can u answer this too and if ur gonna say that jordan is the best player ever undisputely then answer this y did the greatest player ever lack the skills to be a point guard?

steve keer is crap, steve keer was always crap. Once again, he got more shots because jordan wasnt there. not that it matters, hes crap. Im not sure what that last question was supposed to mean, however if it means what i think you were trying to make it mean, your a complete fucktard

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 07:25 PM
w00t i get to prove u wrong again u dumb fuktard if they had jordan they woulda easy and im stupid for saying this? excuse me but didnt they have jordan in the 94-95 season ? YES they did but im stupid for saying that? and did they win in the title in the 94-95 season? NO they didnt but im stupid for saying that they woulda had a tough time winning in 94? but w/ jordan they woulda won easy then y didnt they win easy in 95? b/c jordan was missing one of his KEY role players horace grant who ironically was on the magic who beat them in the eastern semi-finals 2-4 to orlando Now this is gonna blow ur mind unless ur really an idiot the year when they didnt have jordan at all WHO IF THEY HAD WOULDA WON EASY 94 postseason they did better than the year w/ jordan LMAO!! they forced a game 7 in the eastern semi-finals instead of losing 6 and if ur gonna argue Jordan is rusty which i bet u do keep in mind when he scored 63 points he only played 18 games during the regular season he played 17 games in the 94-95 season jordan cannot win a championship w/o an amazing supporting cast

this entire thing is almost illegible, you seem to spend half the time reaffirming what an idiot you are.

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 07:48 PM
ah forsaken gj would u like me to reword this in the playoffs

IN THE PLAYOFFS

Where u just said it matters
can u follow so far?

93-94 season(season after jordan's first retirement)

The bulls only lost 2 more games w/o jordan and did better in the playoffs forced a game 7 in the eastern semifinals

94-95 season they had jordan in the playoffs

and they only made it to game 6 in the eastern semifinals so they did worse in the playoffs w/ jordan lmao !! nice job try to dispute this THERE FACTS

omg forsaken ur an idiot was not goin to paly w/ pippen meaning he was playin w/ him at the time after pippen had his injury and said that he might not come back to play so ur wrong JORDAN did not play w/o pippen ever again UR WRONG ADMIT IT FOR ONCE k?

lmao !! r u shittin me steve keer was crap ? steve keer is one of the top 3 point shooters in the history of the NBA and u say he is crap LMAO!! omg plz ur so fukin retarded learn bball and then try to post ? k? and how about some reasons as to why jordan is the best b/c u have yet to give one that proves he is the greates

Clutch
05-12-2005, 08:15 PM
..ok i've gotten lost, hadent had time to check the last few pages, someone tell me whats going on...whats the convo..i'll make a statement

Opi
05-12-2005, 08:16 PM
..ok i've gotten lost, hadent had time to check the last few pages, someone tell me whats going on...whats the convo..i'll make a statement
i have no clue, i just get the feeling it has something to do with jordan rather than the playoffs right now. :(

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 10:30 PM
ah forsaken gj would u like me to reword this in the playoffs

IN THE PLAYOFFS

Where u just said it matters
can u follow so far?

93-94 season(season after jordan's first retirement)

The bulls only lost 2 more games w/o jordan and did better in the playoffs forced a game 7 in the eastern semifinals

94-95 season they had jordan in the playoffs

and they only made it to game 6 in the eastern semifinals so they did worse in the playoffs w/ jordan lmao !! nice job try to dispute this THERE FACTS

omg forsaken ur an idiot was not goin to paly w/ pippen meaning he was playin w/ him at the time after pippen had his injury and said that he might not come back to play so ur wrong JORDAN did not play w/o pippen ever again UR WRONG ADMIT IT FOR ONCE k?

lmao !! r u shittin me steve keer was crap ? steve keer is one of the top 3 point shooters in the history of the NBA and u say he is crap LMAO!! omg plz ur so fukin retarded learn bball and then try to post ? k? and how about some reasons as to why jordan is the best b/c u have yet to give one that proves he is the greates

pippen was never a wizard :)

and keer was crap, there are at least 10 players playing RIGHT NOW who are better shooters then he ever was

jordan was the best, it is beyond dispute. Mybe tommorow ill spend time looking up some statistics for you (apparently you think thats all that matters) but then again, mybe i wont. Its disgusting that there is even a debate about jordans greatness..you are completly stupid

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 10:32 PM
lmao...
u got me w/ that wizard shit lol :(

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 10:36 PM
lol dont worry about it, it a period of time that everyone, jordan included, would like to forget :\

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 10:36 PM
well forsaken this was fun but i think we should stick to the topic now i still say spurs over pistsons in 6

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 10:39 PM
yea thats a good idea. I agree with the spurs, but i take them in 7 over the heat :) (though shaq not playing tonight concerns me) It would also be real interesting if indiana/detroit and dallas/phoenix turn out to be actual competitve series

DaRkReBeL
05-12-2005, 10:39 PM
personally id love to c miller get his ring but i doubt thats gonna happening :(

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-12-2005, 10:45 PM
i would to, but i dont really see them beating detroit, let alone SA. lol i just saw that miami beat the wiz without shaq

P4blo
05-13-2005, 10:41 AM
look @ all u saying about miami is all about shaq/wade earlier ....THEY WON WITH OUT SHAQ....dosent really suprise me tho...cuz i know miami that good..but watch if shaq is healthy...HEAT vs SUNS final!

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-13-2005, 04:23 PM
or the wizards are just that bad

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-13-2005, 04:24 PM
i mean really, noone had an easier first round matchup then them, facing a depleted bulls team (missing curry and loul deng) and they still had to fight to win it

DaRkReBeL
05-22-2005, 08:53 PM
Spurs All The Way :)

IEatWallPaper
05-22-2005, 09:57 PM
Spurs vs Pistons in finals. Heat isn't going to beat the Pistons. Anyone that made the playoffs could beat the wizards, so don't say that they swept twice in a row.

Masta Shake
05-22-2005, 10:13 PM
all i know is that the heat is going to be in the finals, shaq is a beast

AA_FoRsAkEn
05-22-2005, 11:04 PM
Spurs vs Pistons in finals. Heat isn't going to beat the Pistons. Anyone that made the playoffs could beat the wizards, so don't say that they swept twice in a row.

pistons had and offley hard time vs a pacer team without ron artest AND with jermaine o'neal injured

DaRkReBeL
05-22-2005, 11:21 PM
yes thats true so iunno but i say spurs win it all east iuno :(

P4blo
05-23-2005, 01:54 AM
Lol Ppl Say O Not Big Deal Heat Sweap 2 In A Row...but Mostly With Out Shaq? How Is That Not A Big Deal....

IEatWallPaper
05-30-2005, 01:27 PM
Suns will be swept

SoNNeT
05-30-2005, 01:28 PM
Nash is gonna pick it up.

SoNNeT
05-30-2005, 01:30 PM
So will Marion.

aOk-GoDlike
05-30-2005, 01:41 PM
Forget the NBA Liverpool won the champions league WHOOOOOOOOOO!

SoNNeT
05-30-2005, 01:42 PM
Yeah I actually caught that, isn't that when they came back 0-3 and won?

dRaMa~
05-30-2005, 01:51 PM
dwayne wade is sexy

-dazed-
05-30-2005, 01:56 PM
So are you :)

aOk-GoDlike
05-30-2005, 01:57 PM
Yeah I actually caught that, isn't that when they came back 0-3 and won?
Yes it is ;)

Easy
05-30-2005, 02:02 PM
The spurs not only stole home court advantage from the suns in game one, but then they rocked them again in game 2, and now they are up 3-0. WHO WANT IT WITH GINOBILI? It's funny because the suns worked so hard in the regular season with that sick record like 15 losses or something and it was all for homecourt advantage... which they lost in games 1 and 2 easily. GINOBILI OWNS ALL K?

Easy
05-30-2005, 02:03 PM
oh yea, spurs in 6 over the Pistons for my finals predictioN.
(i live in San Antonio) :)

SoNNeT
05-30-2005, 02:03 PM
Suns were allowed to lose game 1 after their scedule and how close the games were to one another. But game 2 was unexcusable. Same with game 3.

Easy
05-30-2005, 02:07 PM
anyone agree with me on this, Manu Ginobili is the best player in the playoffs right now.. or atleast the most valuable...and yes, including shaq,wade,duncan... all of them just get their 30 points or w/e, Ginobili always gets his points too, but like 5 steals a few key boards and the most amazing passes ever. Not 2 mention a few dunks down the lane.

SoNNeT
05-30-2005, 02:09 PM
I agree with you, he is the best currently in the playoffs.

Easy
05-30-2005, 02:27 PM
wow i would expect people to jump all over me and be like 'NO WADE IS THE MAN'... WHOS GINOBILI?'

SoNNeT
05-30-2005, 02:29 PM
Their both taking control on their teams, but Ginobili has been showing me more.

hate-andre
05-30-2005, 02:45 PM
what a bunch of crack heads on the first page heat/phoenix, if you havn't noticed both detroit, and san antonio play a gut renching gay game deffesnive and very fucking physical its like a football game out there, so they will prolly win san antonio and detroit in finals and san antonio wins it next year lakers will make the playoffs and knock out san antonio like htey do almost every year :)

hate-andre
05-30-2005, 02:47 PM
...genobli, are you a crack head in the suns serease Pakers the reason they are winning the games. If fucking Johnson was healthy for the suns genobli woulda been shut down like a biatch :) oh and by the way the spurs play gay, how they play should be illegal. I understand deffesne but these refs have to start calling these hand checks and these arm bars fuckin bruce bowen cant keep his hands to him self. ITs fuckin rediculous, The spurs will beat detroit simply cause detroit wont score more then 70 lolz

hate-andre
05-30-2005, 02:48 PM
Although i dont predict a sweep vrs the suns if they suns can win this next one in san antionio the spurs better win the first game in phoenix or u mnight seen an upset, the most valuable player right now in the playoffs is steve nash, by far.

Easy
05-30-2005, 02:51 PM
yes andre, Steve Nash is producing wins up the ass. All 0 of them.

Easy
05-30-2005, 02:52 PM
And if parker is winning the games for the spurs right now, that just makes NAsh look even worse, because he guards parker....

Easy
05-30-2005, 02:54 PM
All the talk here in San Antonio is about Defense. The front page of the newspaper is "TOUGH D" or something. Poppovich preaches defense. And also, the spurs have dropped 100+ each game against the suns, so they can score too.

Easy
05-30-2005, 02:56 PM
AND 1 MORE THING, GINOBILI > NASH... K?

hE LIVES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD K

hate-andre
05-30-2005, 03:01 PM
easy, first off its not parkers d on nash its the tema deffense on nash 2nd, im talking about parkers penetration, we al saw what genobli did in the last searies when he was getting hit hard, absofuckinlutly NOTHING, oh and lastly nash has played well every single game just cause hes team is losing isnt his fault marion, is playing like shit and johnson is really injured. Stadumier is also playing better then janobli but a whole team cant revolve around 2 players you need a whole team effort first nash then stodimier and i dont even like the suns...

IEatWallPaper
05-30-2005, 05:41 PM
andre, settle down you don't know what you're talking about. Last series when ginobili was hit hard? Give me a break, he was drawing fouls left and right. Also, you'd be drunk if you said Nash has been playing well. Parker has been shutting him down. Team defence you say? They're playing zone/man.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/emanuel_ginobili/index.html

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/amare_stoudemire/index.html

Ginobili is playing worse then Stoudemire? Yea, ok andre, you got me there... fucking
dumbass. Lastly, it is his fault if Nash's team is playing like shit. He is the leader on that team, he should be doing something. Spurs are just better. Also, Johnson isn't really that injured, he just sucks.

SoNNeT
05-30-2005, 05:49 PM
Ginobili is playing better then he has, all year. You can't say he hasn't, andre.

Masta Shake
05-30-2005, 10:57 PM
who is still in it, i lost track because i have been so busy

birth-control
06-01-2005, 04:41 AM
Spurs will get a ring no matter what. Miami or Detroit won't take them out in a 7 game series, SA's defense is superior to both teams and defense is what wins championships. Phoenix has no idea what the word defense means, they were lucky to win game 4. The spurs have nasty defense and a nasty bench. Lets just analyze SA's players...First you have Timvp Duncan, Ginobli, Parker, Mohammed, Barry, G.Robinson, Bowen, and finally Robert Horry aka big shot Bob, aka Will Smith, aka i'm clutch like nobody else, aka i have rings and you don't. This lineup is extremely deadly and adapts well to any style of play. I don't think Detroit or Miami have a prayer but hopefully we'll see some great games.
w e l c o m e t o t e x a s
-bc-

SoNNeT
06-01-2005, 06:30 AM
who is still in it, i lost track because i have been so busy

Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Miami Heat, and Detroit Pistons. ``

dRaMa~
06-01-2005, 06:33 AM
miami is gonna whoop the pistons on thursday and then again the next game then we're gonna whoop whoever from west cuz dwayne wade is sexy :D and yeh this shows u east > west in EVERYTHING >< hehe

birth-control
06-01-2005, 02:33 PM
miami is gonna whoop the pistons on thursday and then again the next game then we're gonna whoop whoever from west cuz dwayne wade is sexy :D and yeh this shows u east > west in EVERYTHING >< hehe
Miami isn't going to whoop anyone, they barely pull off the win with Wade scoring 40 points. I will agree Dwayne wade is elite but Detroit plays way better defense and Shaq isn't 100% If by a miracle the Heat can defeat Detroit (which i don't think they will) they still have no answer for the Spurs.
w e l c o m e t o t e x a s
-bc-

Masta Shake
06-01-2005, 02:41 PM
Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Miami Heat, and Detroit Pistons. ``
i dont think the spurs will win it or the pistons, i think it is going to be the heat or the suns taking it home this year, nash is beast, and he is white!

IEatWallPaper
06-01-2005, 07:18 PM
Shake, too bad the suns are going to get owned tonight. Also, Miami is too hurt to do anything, they'll lose again tomorrow.

Masta Shake
06-01-2005, 07:22 PM
Shake, too bad the suns are going to get owned tonight. Also, Miami is too hurt to do anything, they'll lose again tomorrow.
maybe, i dont know, we will just have to see what happens...you have a good point though with miami

SoNNeT
06-01-2005, 07:25 PM
Suns will make it 3-3, then lose game 7. Duncan over 30 points. ``

P4blo
06-01-2005, 07:26 PM
well 2-2 heat - pistons good series so far ;)

SoNNeT
06-01-2005, 07:28 PM
Yeah Miami is looking weak. Detroit is picking it up. ``

Masta Shake
06-01-2005, 07:28 PM
didnt the pistons win last year?

iNfA)MuTe
06-01-2005, 08:29 PM
Go Pistons! Go!!!!!!!

SoNNeT
06-01-2005, 08:30 PM
didnt the pistons win last year?

Yes they did. ``

BathingApe
06-01-2005, 08:30 PM
I Live in UK...so i only get to watch the late matches.. ( cuz of the time difference) ne ways im a boston celtic fan :p

birth-control
06-02-2005, 05:21 PM
Told ya Phoenix had no answer, Detroit will pull it out and the spurs will take them in 6 games.
w e l c o m e t o t e x a s
-bc-

iNfA)MuTe
06-02-2005, 09:44 PM
Pistons Pistons!!

Masta Shake
06-02-2005, 10:48 PM
Pistons Pistons!!wow, that is one of the stupidest posts ever, i bet when he typed the Pistons it says "your post must be longer than 10 characters," so then he just typed pistons in again

iNfA)MuTe
06-02-2005, 11:32 PM