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gM.BlinX
05-22-2005, 12:53 AM
Alright, I know Phantom had a thread like this, but earlier today I was testing with terran on how to stop temp drops. I soon realized that If you put some sort of building over your minerals (enough for a person to click on the building instead of the mineral patch, but at the same time block one side of your miners) it will only get one side of your miners. You should plan on putting all of your miners on one side. Hopefully, the side with few scvs will get temped and ur other scvs will live.

Aggress
05-22-2005, 12:55 AM
Didn't read but stopping temp drop isn't that hard if you just keep your eyes on the minimap. Or hack. :)


Oh and I dont suggest the second one. :)

gM.BlinX
05-22-2005, 12:58 AM
Didn't read but stopping temp drop isn't that hard if you just keep your eyes on the minimap. Or hack. :)


Oh and I dont suggest the second one. :)
Well, Its kinda hard when they send 20 million shuttles at you.

Aggress
05-22-2005, 12:59 AM
Well, Its kinda hard when they send 20 million shuttles at you. Not really, run away with your workers. Sometimes I even keep a guy or building at another base so when they temp drop I just send them there so they are far away from minerals. Oh btw send to gas, always. :)

gM.BlinX
05-22-2005, 01:01 AM
Well, hopefully my strategy kinda gets used a little so we have less people CONSTANTLY BITCHING about getting temp dropped.

darkkefu
05-22-2005, 01:02 AM
Alright, I know Phantom had a thread like this, but earlier today I was testing with terran on how to stop temp drops. I soon realized that If you put some sort of building over your minerals (enough for a person to click on the building instead of the mineral patch, but at the same time block one side of your miners) it will only get one side of your miners. You should plan on putting all of your miners on one side. Hopefully, the side with few scvs will get temped and ur other scvs will live.
Anyone who has played more than 50 1v1's should know this.

gM.BlinX
05-22-2005, 01:04 AM
Anyone who has played more than 50 1v1's should know this.
But I could probably say 95% of starcraft players use this. :D

darkkefu
05-22-2005, 01:07 AM
But I could probably say 95% of starcraft players use this. :D
You read my post wrong? Probably 95% of the Starcraft players have played 50 games..

gM.BlinX
05-22-2005, 01:09 AM
I meant to put 95% of starcraft players dont use this lol sorry.

SoNNeT
05-22-2005, 01:10 AM
I made up temp dropping.

darkkefu
05-22-2005, 01:12 AM
I made up temp dropping. Yeah, I had the idea of mining gas to get past zealots on the tech tree too.

Aggress
05-22-2005, 01:13 AM
Yeah, I had the idea of mining gas to get past zealots on the tech tree too.
Copier!!! That was my idea!! I made that up!!!;)

gM.BlinX
05-22-2005, 01:15 AM
Yeah, I had the idea of mining gas to get past zealots on the tech tree too.
I had to read that 5 times before I got what you ment. :confused:

Aggress
05-22-2005, 01:17 AM
I had to read that 5 times before I got what you ment. :confused:
R E T A r D :)

XpLoDe`
05-22-2005, 01:17 AM
haha jus put 1 or 2 sci vessel hotkeyed at ur main... works very well against mass droppers like clutch :P

Aggress
05-22-2005, 01:19 AM
haha jus put 1 or 2 sci vessel hotkeyed at ur main... works very well against mass droppers like clutch :P

I'm not worried about late drops, its the early ones that hurt.

XpLoDe`
05-22-2005, 01:21 AM
tech a sci vessel early then... 10min mark is usually wen the drops come pouring in with 50832590469074368907430 dropships
the early ones jus use turrets at side of base

Aggress
05-22-2005, 01:22 AM
tech a sci vessel early then... 10min mark is usually wen the drops come pouring in with 50832590469074368907430 dropships
the early ones jus use turrets at side of base
One time someone acutally came in with exactly 50832590469074368907430 dropships and temped me.

XpLoDe`
05-22-2005, 01:27 AM
well thats the reason i used that number.. it happened to me to.. but my vessels handled it :)

ill say it now

Terran > Protoss

darkkefu
05-22-2005, 01:34 AM
One time someone acutally came in with exactly 50832590469074368907430 dropships and temped me.
With experience you know exactly how many ships you need to make a successful drop, I watch people like Clutch run in with like 6-7 ships when he only needed 3.

XpLoDe`
05-22-2005, 01:42 AM
ya.. like the tvp i played vs him :)
i still got him in the end tho!

TW-Mouse
05-22-2005, 11:24 AM
Terran > all

But T is soo freakin hard to master :/

sLeeT
05-22-2005, 11:30 AM
More shuttles are just prettyer kefu. :)

aOk-GoDlike
05-22-2005, 11:34 AM
I think the best way is the way phantom does when i used to play he just runs all his miners to the other base by clicking on the minerals on the other base miners stick togather and when the temp comes there is nother to storm. :)

sLeeT
05-22-2005, 11:47 AM
Thats what I do..... :sadno: Just hotkey all ur miners and click them to go to ur partners ' gas. :)

darkkefu
05-23-2005, 01:19 AM
Thats what I do..... :sadno: Just hotkey all ur miners and click them to go to ur partners ' gas. :)
Takes too long, just use your own gas and hope for the best.

Masta Shake
05-27-2005, 02:42 PM
to stop temp drops i just build some missile turrets around my permitter and then around my minerals, they never get into my base and it doesnt cost or take a long time to do

Byakuya
05-30-2005, 07:18 PM
Then they arent very good at doing it ;)

InvincibilitY
05-31-2005, 12:07 PM
Takes too long, just use your own gas and hope for the best.
Agreed. If you're scrolling the map trying to get miners out, you'll save 24, and the rest will die.

-dazed-
05-31-2005, 02:06 PM
Alright, I know Phantom had a thread like this, but earlier today I was testing with terran on how to stop temp drops. I soon realized that If you put some sort of building over your minerals (enough for a person to click on the building instead of the mineral patch, but at the same time block one side of your miners) it will only get one side of your miners. You should plan on putting all of your miners on one side. Hopefully, the side with few scvs will get temped and ur other scvs will live.


....any good temp droper can get thre that newb strat...

StIpO-
05-31-2005, 03:52 PM
blinx is good man and that aint a newb strat..................

blinx add my new account OmNiStIpO-

Bishop
06-01-2005, 01:28 AM
GUYS ITS NOT VERY HARD, when you have like 50 miners and your done building, or even before hand
hotkey 12 scv take them off to refinery
12 more hotkey #2 to refinery
12 more hotkey #3
ETC.
what do you lose 1 or 200 minerals? way less then hes gonna lose by wasting shuttle/temp on u
make sure u have vision of another mineral patch
U see temp coming with scattered ovies, turrets, beys, mines across map ETC.
1
2
3
4
at the other mineral patch
GG temp drop

I did this vs boba in a ZvP, Zerg, but still the same effect
because of this, I hardly get temp D anymore
3 tanks and some turrets, just so it makes them have to focus on it a bit

rW.MaRio
06-01-2005, 02:03 AM
I had to read that 5 times before I got what you ment. :confused:
u must be a dumbass then?......it made perfect sence to me

Easy
06-01-2005, 02:43 AM
Well if you guys really want to know the secret to stopping those god awful drops.. then just ask me.

Easy
06-01-2005, 02:49 AM
Ok fine, i'll just tell you then...

If you see a shuttle passing through the perimeter of your base, just leave.
It becomes a mental victory for you and a tragic loss for them.
They want to temp you sooo bad, so don't allow it. GG TEMP WHORES

SpeedZ[Nitros]
06-01-2005, 09:53 AM
Place a couple of tanks at your back. like 2-4 and hotkey them. Keep eye on minimap. When u see the shuttle on ur minimap, double press the tanks hotkey that are at your minerals and keep pressing the s key to stop them from attacking until u see their temp. once u see the temp pop out, right click it. this also works well if u have some turrets in back, because they are forced to drop the temp earlier. so if u have turrets, just let the tanks attack freely. cuz the first thing to come out will be the temp. Comment this strat.. Once again i didnt read any of the other posts for this thread so if i said stuff that was allready said, dont bitch.

InvincibilitY
06-01-2005, 12:01 PM
']Place a couple of tanks at your back. like 2-4 and hotkey them. Keep eye on minimap. When u see the shuttle on ur minimap, double press the tanks hotkey that are at your minerals and keep pressing the s key to stop them from attacking until u see their temp. once u see the temp pop out, right click it. this also works well if u have some turrets in back, because they are forced to drop the temp earlier. so if u have turrets, just let the tanks attack freely. cuz the first thing to come out will be the temp. Comment this strat.. Once again i didnt read any of the other posts for this thread so if i said stuff that was allready said, dont bitch.#1 problem with this, is that good players will hit u so fast, you wont be able to manual target the temp. With extra high lat, by the time the tanks respond, its too late :(.
Although, if u scatter the tanks really far apart, the zlot distraction he might drop will get picked off, and then when the temp drops, its in range of some new tanks, that arent cooling down.

The_Playa
06-01-2005, 12:41 PM
well, sending scvs to gas used to be a good trick, but now temp droppers seem to be temping the gas scvs too, so that takes away that idea.
the best idea i think is get some turrets on the sides, and in the bases next to you for vision, and to actually kill the shuttles before they even get to you.
either that or keep raiths near the sides until ready for attack.
by the way,
remember
if they are going fast temp drop, it will affect their massing, and theyr macro etc, so if you can prevent a fast drop virtually unscathed then your pretty much set to win (unless your hopeless)

SoNNeT
06-01-2005, 12:42 PM
The workers to gas is most effective. That way they get half your workers instead of 100% (on min's.) ``

Masta Shake
06-01-2005, 02:50 PM
The workers to gas is most effective. That way they get half your workers instead of 100% (on min's.) ``
yeah, if they do get the temps in there just move them out of the way as fast as you can or you will get owned

DaRkReBeL
06-01-2005, 02:55 PM
The workers to gas is most effective. That way they get half your workers instead of 100% (on min's.) ``c thats the whole idea about using 2 - 3 temps storm everything

Easy
06-01-2005, 02:58 PM
But then you don't have enough decoys to get by cannons if you load 2-3 temps in one shuttle. NEWB REBEL

And no1 listened to me... if you see a shuttle enter your base, leave before they can storm.

ZeNiTH
06-01-2005, 02:58 PM
Yeah, I had the idea of mining gas to get past zealots on the tech tree too.Wow, I'll try that next game.

DaRkReBeL
06-01-2005, 03:01 PM
But then you don't have enough decoys to get by cannons if you load 2-3 temps in one shuttle. NEWB REBEL

And no1 listened to me... if you see a shuttle enter your base, leave before they can storm.eat my sairs NEWB EASY or eat my multiple SHUTTLES NEWB EASY

Easy
06-01-2005, 03:19 PM
Rebel, you didn't include that in your first post.. gg NEWB REBEL I'm uP on you in LT gg

Anjo
06-01-2005, 03:23 PM
GUYS ITS NOT VERY HARD, when you have like 50 miners and your done building, or even before hand
hotkey 12 scv take them off to refinery
12 more hotkey #2 to refinery
12 more hotkey #3
ETC.
what do you lose 1 or 200 minerals? way less then hes gonna lose by wasting shuttle/temp on u
make sure u have vision of another mineral patch
U see temp coming with scattered ovies, turrets, beys, mines across map ETC.
1
2
3
4
at the other mineral patch
GG temp drop

I did this vs boba in a ZvP, Zerg, but still the same effect
because of this, I hardly get temp D anymore
3 tanks and some turrets, just so it makes them have to focus on it a bit i hope the tanks wont be sieged ..because then they will drop zealots on your miners which will kill miners :)

Easy
06-01-2005, 03:30 PM
Just Leave Omg Idiots.

Easy
06-01-2005, 03:31 PM
eat my sairs NEWB EASY or eat my multiple SHUTTLES NEWB EASY


Eat my flush rebel. 1-0 Poker gg

SoNNeT
06-01-2005, 03:34 PM
c thats the whole idea about using 2 - 3 temps storm everything

You cannon up you main? Gg? ``

Byakuya
06-02-2005, 03:22 AM
Cannoning up main vs a good drop carrying 2 temps isnt going to protect your miners. It will only protect them from picking them back up and waiting to storm again.

StIpO-
06-03-2005, 01:45 PM
cannons all around your main but like wild siad it would be hard to target 2 temps plus the 2 z's

Masta Shake
06-07-2005, 09:51 PM
cannons all around your main but like wild siad it would be hard to target 2 temps plus the 2 z's
Hopefully they will kill them before they do any damage. I usually build another nexus behind my minerals on fast maps and then put two cannons next to it so if the drop ship with the temps makes it past my outer cannons they will get hit with that and destroyed quickly if they do drop.

InvincibilitY
06-08-2005, 11:52 AM
i hope the tanks wont be sieged ..because then they will drop zealots on your miners which will kill miners :)If your defences are good, he wont be able to choose exactly where he drops anything. Then its just about stopping the ONE temp thats able to make it thru defences. If you have enuff turrets/ cannons, the shuttle will be dead, with the sairs/scouts/multishuttles, only allowing him 1-2 temps to drop b4 the whole drop is dead
Moving is still my #1 counter. use the "stop" command too. 12 on each top geyser, 12 on each bottom geyser, stop 12-24. That should protect you from losing any more than 24 SCVs per storm. We should make a fastest with a decoy mineral. 8) In the corner, that u can use to move miners.. I like the idea.. ima make it right now.

Masta Shake
06-12-2005, 06:30 PM
If your defences are good, he wont be able to choose exactly where he drops anything. Then its just about stopping the ONE temp thats able to make it thru defences. If you have enuff turrets/ cannons, the shuttle will be dead, with the sairs/scouts/multishuttles, only allowing him 1-2 temps to drop b4 the whole drop is dead
Moving is still my #1 counter. use the "stop" command too. 12 on each top geyser, 12 on each bottom geyser, stop 12-24. That should protect you from losing any more than 24 SCVs per storm. We should make a fastest with a decoy mineral. 8) In the corner, that u can use to move miners.. I like the idea.. ima make it right now.
Perfectly outlined, that is what I tried to say but didn't put it into enough detail.

Smooth
06-13-2005, 09:06 PM
For terran, here is what you do.

Build a few bunkers near minerals, space them out a bit so scv's don't fuck each other. Lay some spider mines around minerals, then when you see a drop coming in, temp or reaver, you send SCV's to bunkers, which should give the spider mines enough time to come out and rape the reavers/temps. Also place a few turrets in the area, to maybe stop a shuttle before it even gets to minerals.

AnarKie
06-23-2005, 12:49 PM
One time someone acutally came in with exactly 50832590469074368907430 dropships and temped me.
u think that if they had that many dropships they could load sometthing more usefulll like goons or reavs, and kill ur main either way lmao.. stop the temp all u want.. but wit that many shuttle gl stopoping 2x that reavers ;D

hate-andre
06-23-2005, 01:00 PM
stop the first drops with goons hopefully and once u stoped that get about 10 corsairs
the splash alone will take care of the shuttles :D along with some cannosn and stuff :) cause saris dont attack zelaots :D gg ty another innovative andre from andre...did use it works great :)

Byakuya
06-23-2005, 01:09 PM
Ummm andre...

Starcraft Dream > Starcraft Discussion > Terran Strategy
Stopping Temp Drop

~ArakuL~
06-23-2005, 01:14 PM
']For terran, here is what you do.

Build a few bunkers near minerals, space them out a bit so scv's don't fuck each other. Lay some spider mines around minerals, then when you see a drop coming in, temp or reaver, you send SCV's to bunkers, which should give the spider mines enough time to come out and rape the reavers/temps. Also place a few turrets in the area, to maybe stop a shuttle before it even gets to minerals.
lol until u do this :(

AnarKie
06-23-2005, 01:14 PM
lmao... and im pretty sure most of us r tlking about original anyways, not brood... lol =/ so sry no sairs = ur strat uselesss ;D and ran doesn have sairs neways lol =]

MidKnight
06-23-2005, 01:19 PM
Goliaths and unsieged tanks both have a very low firing delay before their first shot. Quick enough to pick a templar off before storm. The zealot distraction is still a problem though. Still goliaths would take out a few of the shuttles before the temp was dropped.
Spider mines scattered around the map to spot the shuttles would also be useful.

MoXy-
06-23-2005, 01:26 PM
-.- the quick temp drops often mean one ship so if you know how to build an anti drop base like I, you wont get dropped ... and if some how they do i hope you can move your scvs fast enough, I always have a couple of unsieged tanks naer my base an I ff the Templar anyways :-/

MoXy-
06-23-2005, 01:30 PM
lock down also works well against drops :-.

Kai
06-23-2005, 01:31 PM
but they always drop before u can tech to that :) and if u do tech to that their mass will own u b/c u havent built right


my way of stopping temp drop as terran - I dont play terran

TalentedFreak
06-23-2005, 01:38 PM
how about you use all these ideas?

cLoNe
06-24-2005, 03:20 AM
Kill them before they have the chance to drop your mins

pen
06-24-2005, 03:24 AM
when they have 10 shuttles coming at you. what i would do first is guess which shuttle it has a templar in it. kill it, other 9 shuttles will be useless.. (9 shuttles are used for cushion dmg only). to do this, u gotta have a nice sense of... guessing? or just be sexy. i did this vs spartan[nK] today. he wasted about 2000 money on that drop. :) it's usually the one in the middle, and it's kinda obvious if ur a temp dropper urself, or b een temp dropped a lot, and wut u've been doing all that time was just watch the templars drop and storm ur workers.

darkkefu
06-24-2005, 03:29 AM
when they have 10 shuttles coming at you. what i would do first is guess which shuttle it has a templar in it. kill it, other 9 shuttles will be useless.. (9 shuttles are used for cushion dmg only). to do this, u gotta have a nice sense of... guessing? or just be sexy. i did this vs spartan[nK] today. he wasted about 2000 money on that drop. :) it's usually the one in the middle, and it's kinda obvious if ur a temp dropper urself, or b een temp dropped a lot, and wut u've been doing all that time was just watch the templars drop and storm ur workers.
Yes if two shuttles come in, attack the back one. Common Starcraft sense :)

hate-andre
06-24-2005, 06:13 PM
well...ok if u wanna stop it with terran in reg..it isnt that hard 3 tanks by main...along with turrets and supply depots blocking the way cause often times since turrets dont attack z's they have to drop the temp MUCh sooner..if u got depots blockin they cant walk in with storm also even by chance they do pass them witch shoudnt happen u got 3 tanks...now if ur lucky soo nas it pops out ur tanks will get it ..if ur unlucky hey at least move some scvs...as best u can i can usualy save over half..nnles they get lucky ass storms in at the perfect spots i usually like to move to the opposite side on the far side so the scvs move ifnron of the cc..making htem much harder to storm rather then just to the dirrect gass right next to them where u can storm half the miniral patch plus the gass...also what usualy hurts isnt the first storm its tnoe 2nd or 3rd templar..having turrets and tanks should elimnate this...and lastly if ur playign vrs a mass temper..just make sure u got 2 extra cc's u should be coo if u fallow these things

Bishop
06-26-2005, 03:07 AM
u guys are fukin dumb get the maphack from baddacks website
then use that
god

Bishop
06-26-2005, 03:08 AM
How About Just Pick Protoss And Temp Them First
Thx

Jenious
06-26-2005, 03:15 AM
that dosent stop it tho, they still can?

Anjo
06-26-2005, 03:29 AM
the really simplest way to stop temp drop is to build pylons outside your base so you could see the shuttles early enough and pull out your miners away from the minarles.
theres no other way to stop it...no matter how many cannons/turrets/spores you have he can also build few more shuttles...

NiGhT
06-27-2005, 12:42 PM
Alright, I know Phantom had a thread like this, but earlier today I was testing with terran on how to stop temp drops. I soon realized that If you put some sort of building over your minerals (enough for a person to click on the building instead of the mineral patch, but at the same time block one side of your miners) it will only get one side of your miners. You should plan on putting all of your miners on one side. Hopefully, the side with few scvs will get temped and ur other scvs will live.
build turrets like a whore and place 12 tanks around ur cc ;) and put 50 barracks over ur money

Bishop
06-28-2005, 03:50 PM
um
just hack
dats wat i do

NeSS
06-28-2005, 03:52 PM
Well, Its kinda hard when they send 20 million shuttles at you.
thats shin style right there.

Masta Shake
06-28-2005, 11:16 PM
um
just hack
dats wat i do
Wow your cool. Haxs0r!

ujackedmyname
07-29-2005, 06:47 PM
This is only forum i like kefu in, he's funny poor blinx :)